> Avra is a hopeless case. Unfortunately.

I'm not so sure it's totally hopeless - just that it seems there few
willing to dig into it to compile amforth with avra as there are simpler
alternatives!
 <http://avra.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/avra/avra>

I have been using the Raspberry Pi (Debian) as an "IDE" for some 328P
projects. Initially I would build Amforth on my desktop using Studio4 under
wine (also under VM/XP) and move the hex files to the pi and load with
avrdude.  Since the pi is an ARM architecture, it won't run wine nor VM.
But I wanted to be able to rebuild, load, and run amforth on the pi for a
cleaner ( a bit faster) tool chain.  I am using the Pi (and the hardware
SPI) as my ISP programmer (see
http://kevincuzner.com/2013/05/27/raspberry-pi-as-an-avr-programmer/ ) and
the GPIO serial port to "chat" with my forth interpeter)

Using avra from git hub (git clone git://
avra.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/avra/avra) and taking the configure.in and
Makefile.am (Makefile.linux) from the avra-1.3.0 build package, I can build
and install avra and assemble Amforth 5.0.  I do get the .db warnings for
tick.asm and brackettick.asm but otherwise the hex files load and boot and
run fine for the 328P.

"Unfortunately" I haven't been able to build "working" hex files from 5.1
(although I do get hex files) - but I may not have tracked down all my
hacks from the 5.0 install that is working for me (I need to make better
notes!) Note that I haven't successfully compiled 5.1 with Studio4 or
avrasm2.exe and I can't seem to  install Studio6 under wine or VM/XP.

If my "working" avra under Debian for Amforth 5.0 is of interest to anyone,
I'll track down the minor changes I've made and pass them along. Be
forewarned: as with life, I have no idea how I got here or what I am doing,
but occasionally it all seems to work.


On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 10:19 AM, <dnyb...@seanet.com> wrote:

> I think people mainly use the atmel studio tools, either under windows,
> windows in a VM, or maybe under wine. We're past the days when an
> XP-or-better machine costs used car money, after all. 50 bux will get you
> something that still runs, even if linux is your first love.
>
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 03:43:21 +0300
> > From: Hannu Vuolasaho <vuo...@msn.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Amforth] Build recent amforth with avra
> > To: "amforth-devel@lists.sourceforge.net"
> >       <amforth-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
> > Message-ID: <dub125-w5492b9718d5c00531a8d7ec6...@phx.gbl>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> >> Avra is a hopeless case. Unfortunately.
> >
> > Thanks for confirming that.
> >
> > I have been trying to ansver this question for ages but it seems avra is
> > somehow
> > badly broken. I can't even build it cleanly.
> >
> > Are there any alternatives? avr-as might be good but has different
> syntax.
> >
> > Or is the latest stable avra good enough for the current users (except
> > amforthers)
> > so no-one writes good assembler?
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Hannu Vuolasaho
>
>
>
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