I would love to see native Forth on the ESP8266 boards. With 4mb of
storage that my boards have, it would be really handy.
-- Matt
On 11/2/20 3:36 PM, Tristan Williams wrote:
Hello Erich, AmForthers,
Does this sound like a worthwile plan?
Yes, very much so.
I would be interested in progressing further with AmForth for
RISC-V. The existing AmForth target board HiFive1 has been
discontinued [1] - though there is the upgraded HiFive1 Rev B [2].
Are there any views on which RISC-V board(s) should be considered for
AmForth?
I like the idea of converting "opinion" into a proper blog, perhaps
extending it to some more general Forth ideas/resources.
Best wishes,
Tristan
[1] https://www.sifive.com/boards/hifive1
[2] https://www.sifive.com/boards/hifive1-rev-b
On 02Nov20 20:36, Erich Wälde wrote:
Dear AmForthers,
some time ago (2020-08-02), Mark Roth suggested to come up with a
"road map". Now while mapping unknown territory is a challenge of
sorts, it might be not that difficult in this case.
This my personal point of view, it might change anytime without prior
notice.
1. Accumulate all commits since Jan 2019 and call it *release 6.9*
That I have done. :)
2. Document the exact steps that were needed to create "a release".
Well yes, I have these lines, but not in shape and maybe not
complete. It should be added to the repository nonetheless.
3. Add testing scripts --- I have a set of scripts for that, but I
have not run this stuff yet. However, in my opinion adding a
working test suite is far more important at the moment, than
anything else.
This includes preparing some hardware with 4 relevant target boards
in order to simplify the process.
4. Call this *release 7.0*
5. Convert and Move Repository
Currently it looks like I would have to convert the svn repository
to a git repository with a tool like svn2git. This is a process I
would like to avoid, so if someone knows how to convert the
repository "server side", or even how to export the complete svn
repository on sourceforge into a big file ... all hints are kindly
appreciated.
I would then move to sourcehut.org. Why?
- I do have an account there already
- sourcehut offers accounts for a very reasonable amount of money.
- sourchut works without javascript! Can you believe this? No? Try it.
For me this is a major step in the correct direction. [1]
- I would order and pay for a new project account
- I would like to add at least two collaborators with full access
from day one. Volunteers?
This is going to include more things than just converting the
repository:
- possibly convert the releases/N.M directories into branches
- create a new space for the webpage
- automate generation of the webpage, serverside if possible
- document how to locally generate the documentation --- well, the
stuff you have to install before "cd doc; make all".
- look into the use of javascript and possible ways to reduce that,
should it be desirable
- create an archive for (some of) the old tarballs
- archive and transfer the mailing list content
- create a new mailing list
- automate the generation of a release
- document the release process
- start using the bugtracker (preferably with connection to the
mailing list)
- test the branch-edit-pull.request-merge workflow
- possibly convert "Opinion" into a prober blog?
- setup a redirection notice on sourceforge, close everything else
down.
- possibly dissolve amforth/community into a ./contrib/
subdirectory, test the stuff again and document it better
https://sourceforge.net/p/amforth/community/HEAD/tree/
And this list is not complete.
6. Call this *release 8.0*
7. Remove arm msp430 riscv for the sake of simplicity -- unless
someone speaks up to offer help.
Carsten has offered support for arm and riscv --- Thank you!
msp430 anyone?
8. Fix and automate the creation of the reference cards
- include ALL available WORDs (not only the ones in a particular
build)
- include the exact file path(s), where WORD is defined
- possibly add a Forth equivalent (.asm WORDS)
- possibly a pointer to a worked example
In order to achieve that I would rework the existing perl script
AND add any missing file headers, possibly in a new/enhanced
format.
If we get this far, then imho we have /advanced considerably/.
Does this sound like a worthwile plan?
I'm sure there are other ideas and suggestions.
Point 5 is huge and needs to be broken into smaller steps.
I would appreciate any response, and if you could
include, which target you are using, all the better.
Still reading?
Thank you for your precious time.
Happy forthing,
Erich
[1] I'm using torbrowser most of the time. I'm using firefox to
work at amforth.sourceforge.net. However, NoScript or uMatrix do
an excellent job, but break the sf.net webpage routinely. I do
not see all the buttons and what not unless I really switch off
NoScript. This is not, what I prefer.
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