Hello John,

If in your experimenting with the CH32X035 you manage to get an interrupt 
driven USBD or USBFS interface enumerating (or better) I would love to know 
how. It is the remaining piece in getting a more useful AmForth on the 
CH32V203. 

Best wishes,
Tristan


> On 22 Dec 2025, at 17:27, John Sarabacha <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> For those interested it looks like amforth (RISCV) combined  with C and
> inline assembly routines will at least build for CH32X033/035 using
> MounRiver Studio  2.3.0. This combination is being tested for an existing
> application that embeds amforth (RISCV) for use as a VM (virtual machine).
> Note: at this point although the previous application (C and inline
> assembly) was well tested and known to work, the addition of  amforth
> (RISCV) is still untested so it is experimental.
> MounRiver Studio  2.3.0 is being used to deploy and debug the application.
> Putty is used for the serial I/O through WCH-LinkE-1v3
> 
> C and inline assembly routines only
>   text   data    bss    dec    hex filename
> 17092    160   4220  21472   53e0 GLANN_033-251205x.elf
> 
> with  amforth (RISCV)
>   text   data    bss    dec    hex filename
> 34340    160   3452  37952   9440 GLANN_033-251222x.elf
> 
> amForth still lives on
> Regards to all
> 
>> On Sat, Dec 20, 2025 at 2:25 AM <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2025-12-19 20:15, John Sarabacha wrote:
>>> Is the latest release for amForth a good starting point to make changes
>>> and
>>> use for CH32X033/035 chips particularly for calling existing C and
>>> assembly
>>> routines? Even though existing work is on going  with CH32V307
>>> (amForth-RV), this information is invaluable for a working version for
>>> CH32X033/035 even though flash and ram is less (62k flash 20k sram)
>>> compared to CH32V307. There is  a version of forth on ch32v003 on
>>> GitHub,
>>> however my research has shown that amForth should be a better fit for
>>> hybrid deployment, using forth to manage code on remote
>>> microcontrollers.
>>> Any comments would be appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> John S
>>> 
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>> 
>> Hello John,
>> 
>> AmForth-RV is experimental, and the latest efforts, mine at least,
>> have not made it to the svn repo. As the new maintainer-lite (see
>> mailing list archive) for AmForth, this is something I am working
>> towards.
>> 
>> On the CH32V307, AmForth-RV is able to call C and external assembly
>> routines, and additionally handle C and Forth based isr. This is how
>> it uses the WCH library to provide access to the CH32V307 USBHS
>> peripheral. Some flash usage data.
>> 
>> C build with USB (AmForth-RV assembly core + external C from WCH)
>> 
>>    text           data     bss     dec     hex filename
>>   43492            541   15204   59237    e765 ./build/amforth.elf
>> 
>> ASM build (AmForth-RV assembly core only)
>> 
>>    text           data     bss     dec     hex filename
>>   35544            297   12848   48689    be31 ./build/amforth.elf
>> 
>> Looking at the ASM build, it needs ~36kB of flash. With the removal of
>> surplus development/debug material perhaps, 32k flash. I have this
>> running on a CH32V203 which is 64kB/20kB. The C build with USB does
>> not really fit, and I have not managed to get the USBFS device on
>> my particular CH32V203 dev board to work yet.
>> 
>> AmForth-RV *really* is experimental, so if you want to experiment with
>> the CH32X033/035 mcu it might be a good place to start. AmForth-RV in
>> 64kB/20kB with USB would be a very nice milestone.
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> Tristan
>> 
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