Sheesh, as in "buck up and pay?"
----- Original Message ----- From: "dingo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <amibroker@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 11:35 PM Subject: RE: [amibroker] Re: JimSwindle> US STOCKS DATABASE UPDATE > Sheeesh... > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: amibroker@yahoogroups.com >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of cstrader >> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 11:32 PM >> To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com >> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: JimSwindle> US STOCKS DATABASE UPDATE >> >> Well, I'm not sure why anyone needs to pay for stuff that's >> available free. >> For instance, CSI is a great vendor, but then Yahoo gets the >> data from CSI >> and publishes it for free. What's really needed is the list >> of tickers, >> however, and perhaps that can only be done efficiently by >> paying for it. >> >> For me, it's not so bad that there's a ticker that no longer >> exists -- I >> just check to see what the last download date was -- if it's >> in the past >> then I assume it's dead. >> >> However, keeping up with new issues is more difficult. I >> don't understand >> how to scrape the Yahoo site for a list of, say all of the >> current ETFs, or >> all of the stocks currently trading on the AMEX. Can anyone >> help me with >> that? >> >> I was using Swindle's list, but now that seems to be gone... >> so I need to >> hunt for a new list. >> >> Thanks >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "dingo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <amibroker@yahoogroups.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 10:23 PM >> Subject: RE: [amibroker] Re: JimSwindle> US STOCKS DATABASE UPDATE >> >> >> >I haven't investigated any thing other than Yahoo. If there >> is a weg site >> > that lists the tickers, etc without having a subscription, >> etc. then I >> > could >> > prolly scrape it. >> > >> > As designed the program scrapes the data and presents it to >> you in a grid >> > organized by sector/industry or index or etf then you can >> select those >> > that >> > you want to delete and THEN it will create the database. >> > >> > d >> > >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: amibroker@yahoogroups.com >> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of marketmonk777 >> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 8:35 PM >> >> To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com >> >> Subject: [amibroker] Re: JimSwindle> US STOCKS DATABASE UPDATE >> >> >> >> I would be interested in this program. But all I am >> looking for is a >> >> program that creates a list of symbols. What would be >> nice is for it >> >> to "compare" a current download to a previous download and have a >> >> report generated showing what was added and what is missing. >> >> >> >> That way I can decide which stocks to add to my own database. >> >> >> >> The benefit to me is that I don't have to strip out >> symbols from the >> >> pink sheets or OTC BB. >> >> >> >> Amiquote does a great job of downloading the data and >> don't see a need >> >> to replace that functionality. >> >> >> >> As for the price .. that would depend on the functionality that you >> >> decide to put into it. Will it work with just Yahoo? >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> MM >> >> >> >> --- In amibroker@yahoogroups.com, "dingo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > There is not a separate list of added / deleted stocks - >> Yahoo just >> >> updates >> >> > their site on the fly. You would need to build a new list >> >> and compare it >> >> > with those in the database. There is a trail of Yahoo pages that >> >> contains >> >> > what they consider to be the stocks avail in the US - grouped by >> >> sector / >> >> > industry. These pages have to be scraped to get the tickers and >> >> names. Then >> >> > a problem arises when you go to down load quotes for the >> entire list >> >> that >> >> > you've built by scraping - Yahoo doesn't have quotes for >> >> all of them and >> >> > some have even had their tickers changed but the pages >> haven't been >> >> updated >> >> > yet. Plus, you also get pink sheet stocks and other >> "stuff". The >> >> indexes, >> >> > etfs, mutual funds, etc are all on their own pages and >> >> would have to be >> >> > scraped also. >> >> > >> >> > I've done some of this in a program I wrote several years >> >> ago - it even >> >> > updates the quotes and can be scheduled via the >> scheduler. It will >> >> retireve >> >> > historical, current and fundamental data. What it doesn't do at >> >> present is >> >> > detect those stocks that have no quotes or that have >> ceased trading >> >> - those >> >> > that give an error msg when you try to use Amiquote. It >> >> also does NOT >> >> > update the database - it just builds them and updates >> the quotes. I >> >> stopped >> >> > working on it because I thought TJ was going to address this and >> >> decided not >> >> > put any more of my time into it. >> >> > >> >> > I can be talked into finishing it but I won't do it for free - I >> >> done quite >> >> > a few free programs for AB and won't do that any more. >> >> > >> >> > Soooo - what's a price that people are willing to pay and and how >> >> many would >> >> > be interested. If theres not that much interest then I >> >> won't bother. >> >> > >> >> > d >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > _____ >> >> > >> >> > From: amibroker@yahoogroups.com >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> On Behalf >> >> > Of cstrader >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 6:20 PM >> >> > To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com >> >> > Subject: Re: [amibroker] JimSwindle> US STOCKS DATABASE UPDATE >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Hi Ronald, >> >> > >> >> > You say: >> >> > >> >> > ... DOWNLOAD ALL OF THE SYMBOLS THAT "YAHOO" has ADDED in >> >> their "YAHOO" >> >> > database of STOCK SYMBOLS AND PRICES, VOL ,etc. >> >> > >> >> > DO YOU KNOW WHERE THAT "ADDED" LIST IS LOCATED? >> >> > >> >> > If YAHOO discontinues carrying a symbol, then their NEW >> >> CURRENT list of >> >> > symbols will...NOT... >> >> > >> >> > DO YOU KNOW WHERE THAT "NEW CURRENT" LIST IS LOCATED? >> AND WHAT IS >> >> THE "NEW >> >> > CURRENT" LIST. >> >> > >> >> > I'M CURIOUS IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO DOWNLOAD THE ENTIRE LIST OF >> >> YAHOO STOCKS >> >> > SOMEHOW. >> >> > >> >> > Thanks >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> > From: Ronald Davis <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> > To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 5:27 PM >> >> > Subject: Re: [amibroker] JimSwindle> US STOCKS DATABASE UPDATE >> >> > >> >> > Cs, he HAS been doing it for free. >> >> > >> >> > AB does NOT KNOW which symbols are current. >> >> > >> >> > That is why there exists a need DOWNLOAD ALL OF THE SYMBOLS THAT >> >> "YAHOO" has >> >> > ADDED in their "YAHOO" database of STOCK SYMBOLS AND PRICES, VOL >> >> ,etc. >> >> > >> >> > If YAHOO discontinues carrying a symbol, then their NEW >> >> CURRENT list of >> >> > symbols will , NOT have it anymore, and it will have been purged >> >> from your >> >> > AB database of SYMBOLS in the AB US STOCKS FOLDER. Ron D >> >> > >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> > From: cstrader <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> > To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 4:03 PM >> >> > Subject: Re: [amibroker] JimSwindle> US STOCKS DATABASE UPDATE >> >> > >> >> > Aha, I thought Jim was doing this for free. But in any case, how >> >> does AB >> >> > determine which stocks are current and should be on the >> >> list? Yahoo has >> >> > almost 40,000 tickers; who determines which ones go into the US >> >> STOCK SYMBOL >> >> > list? >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Thanks >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> > From: Ronald <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Davis >> >> > To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 4:17 PM >> >> > Subject: Re: [amibroker] JimSwindle> US STOCKS DATABASE UPDATE >> >> > >> >> > This origional post was an inquiry asking when Jim Swindle >> >> would place a >> >> > LATER than >JAN/4/2008 UPDATED LIST OF US STOCK SYMBOLS on >> >> his UPDATE >> >> > website. >> >> > >> >> > Jim was paid to create this updating UPDATING software, so >> >> he is not at >> >> > liberty to simply give it away to Amibroker users. >> >> > >> >> > Yes, I would love to help JIM, but I can't think of >> >> anything I can do to >> >> > assist writing code FOR a NEW version of this updating software. >> >> > I do recall that Dingo and Jim discussed the possibility >> of a Joint >> >> effort >> >> > once, BUT I DON'T THINK IT WENT ANYWHERE. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > HERE IS MORE INFORMATION>>Jim Swindle's US STOCKS >> DATABASE UPDATE >> >> SITE is >> >> > simply an updated list of the >> >> > most recent SYMBOLS in the US STOCKS FOLDER within Amibroker. >> >> > When you run a download from this site, it installs the >> MORE RECENT >> >> list of >> >> > the symbols over the OLDER list of symbols. >> >> > This process of UPDATING the symbols must be followed by a >> >> HISTORICAL >> >> > download of all of the TICKER data for as far back as you want to >> >> have in >> >> > your database. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ============================================================== >> >> ============== >> >> > =========== >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> > From: cstrader <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> > To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 1:46 PM >> >> > Subject: Re: [amibroker] JimSwindle> US STOCKS DATABASE UPDATE >> >> > >> >> > Perhaps we should try to help Jim out a bit. What >> features would we >> >> want to >> >> > see in such a stocks database? >> >> > >> >> > Thanks >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> > From: Ronald <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Davis >> >> > To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 9:21 AM >> >> > Subject: [amibroker] JimSwindle> US STOCKS DATABASE UPDATE >> >> > >> >> > Has anyone heard from Jim regarding when a later update will be >> >> available? >> >> > >> >> > This link to Jim Swindle's US STOCKS DATABASE site shows that it >> >> was last >> >> > udated on Jan 4, 2008. >> >> > >> >> > I also recall that Jim was planning to create a method >> so that each >> >> of us >> >> > could run a LATEST TICKER symbol update an any time. >> >> > >> >> > We all are grateful to Jim for having done this. Ron D >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> <http://www.icc-az.com/icc-az/default.html?http%3A//www.icc-az >> >> .com/icc-az/> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > No virus found in this incoming message. >> >> > Checked by AVG. >> >> > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.6/1480 - Release Date: >> >> 6/3/2008 >> >> > 7:00 AM >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> >> >> Please note that this group is for discussion between users only. >> >> >> >> To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-mail directly to >> >> SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com >> >> >> >> For NEW RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS and other news always check DEVLOG: >> >> http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/ >> >> >> >> For other support material please check also: >> >> http://www.amibroker.com/support.html >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> >> Checked by AVG. >> >> Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.6/1480 - Release >> >> Date: 6/3/2008 7:00 AM >> >> >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------ >> > >> > Please note that this group is for discussion between users only. >> > >> > To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-mail directly to >> > SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com >> > >> > For NEW RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS and other news always check DEVLOG: >> > http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/ >> > >> > For other support material please check also: >> > http://www.amibroker.com/support.html >> > Yahoo! Groups Links >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> Please note that this group is for discussion between users only. >> >> To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-mail directly to >> SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com >> >> For NEW RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS and other news always check DEVLOG: >> http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/ >> >> For other support material please check also: >> http://www.amibroker.com/support.html >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.6/1480 - Release >> Date: 6/3/2008 7:00 AM >> > > > ------------------------------------ > > Please note that this group is for discussion between users only. > > To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-mail directly to > SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com > > For NEW RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS and other news always check DEVLOG: > http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/ > > For other support material please check also: > http://www.amibroker.com/support.html > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
