TJ, One thing... AStyle.dll seems to be missing in my 64 bit version... not sure why. I downloaded the one from www.amibroker.com/bin but it doesn't seem to work. Does it need a 64 bit compile...? If so, do you have a link to one...?
Thanks --- In amibroker@yahoogroups.com, "Rob" <sidharth...@...> wrote: > > TJ, > > I've just got to congratulate you on 64 Bit AB. It is literally lighting > quick on my new machine. Considerably more than 25% quicker I believe > compared to 32 bit. > > I'm very impressed. > > Thanks > > --- In amibroker@yahoogroups.com, Tomasz Janeczko <groups@> wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > With regards to plugin DLLs: > > It is somewhat complicated matter because partially it is governed by > > Windows OS search order itself. > > When you load an exe it will first look for corresponding DLLs in the EXE > > directory > > (not in "current working directory"). So all DLLs and EXE files that are > > in the same > > directory where broker.exe is, are loaded from that directory. That is what > > you expect. > > Problem begins when some DLLs are NOT in the directory where 'exe' file is > > but > > in the SUBdirectory (like Plugins subfolder). In that case "Plugins" > > relative path > > will start from Current working directory, not from 'exe' directory. > > So plugins are the only DLLs that are affected. > > > > So with regards to IQFeed plugin, you can workaround this by simply renaming > > 64-bit edition to IQFeed64.dll. > > AmiBroker is smart enough not to rely on file name and it will load > > appropriate > > 'bitness' version automatically. > > > > > > "It looks like I can not share layouts, parameters (...)" > > That is incorrect statement. You _can_ share layouts and parameters. These > > are ordinary files that are read > > from current working directory. > > > > > > Best regards, > > Tomasz Janeczko > > amibroker.com > > > > On 2010-08-09 13:13, Dennis Brown wrote: > > > > > > > > > Tomasz, > > > > > > Thank you for explaining the Start in property. Sometimes Mac guys are > > > clueless. > > > > > > Things did not work as expected, or maybe they did, but my expectations > > > were wrong. > > > > > > I copied a full installation of my 32 bit AB from my XP drive into > > > F:\AmibrokerData > > > Then, I deleted all .dll and .exe files from from the AmibrokerData > > > folder. > > > I did a full install of 32 bit AB into F:\Amibroker32 > > > I did a full install of 64 bit AB into F:\Amibroker64 > > > I set the Start in property of both to F:\AmibrokerData > > > I also set the preferences of both to using F:\AmibrokerData for > > > formulas, includes, and database > > > > > > Neither AB32 nor AB64 would recognize their local plugins. So they would > > > not start up the IQFeed. They were looking for the plugin .dll files in > > > the AmibrokerData folder. > > > When I copied the plugin folder from Amibroker32 to AmibrokerData, then > > > Amibroker32 IQFeed would try to start, but Amibroker64would not. > > > When I copied the plugin folder from Amibroker64 to AmibrokerData, then > > > Amibroker64 IQFeed would try to start, but Amibroker32would not. > > > > > > This leads me to believe that when the Start in property is set, AB is > > > also looking for at least some and perhaps all .exe or .dll files in the > > > AmibrokerData > > > folder. That means that it cannot be used as a complete shared > > > setup/data folder for both AB32 and AB64 because at a minimum the .dll > > > for IQFeed is different > > > for the two, but named the same. > > > > > > It looks like I can share formulas, includes, and database via > > > preferences. > > > It looks like I can not share layouts, parameters and other setup files > > > between the different AB installations that require different .dll files > > > via Start in > > > property. > > > > > > That is as far as I can figure it out at this point. > > > > > > Am I still missing some important point? > > > > > > I would like to be able to run 3 installations (XP AB32, W7 AB32, W7 > > > AB64), using the Start in property mode on a common AmiBroker folder. > > > All my local files > > > and parameters are also written to the relative addresses inside the > > > Amibroker folder. I want to make sure I am working with only one copy of > > > these files > > > during my trading, testing, and development as I slowly move from XP 32 > > > bit to W7 64 bit. > > > > > > I think this might only work if the Broker.exe program looks for > > > executables in its local folder, and not in the Start in folder. This is > > > what I thought you > > > were telling me it did, but I am not perfectly clear about this. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Dennis > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 8, 2010, at 6:30 AM, Tomasz Janeczko wrote: > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> Hello, > > >> > > >> Yes it is possible to have common folder for data. You would need to > > >> modify > > >> "Start In" property of the shortcut you are using to run AmiBroker to > > >> point to > > >> that "shared" folder. Such shared folder should contain all files > > >> *except* executables. > > >> "Start in" defines current working directory for the application. > > >> AmiBroker uses > > >> *relative* paths from current working directory. > > >> > > >> Best regards, > > >> Tomasz Janeczko > > >> amibroker.com <http://amibroker.com/> > > >> > > >> On 2010-08-08 05:50, Dennis Brown wrote: > > >>> Keith / Tomasz, > > >>> > > >>> Thanks for the suggestions. > > >>> > > >>> I created a new F: drive. I created 3 full installations called > > >>> Amibroker32, AmiBroker64, and AmiBrokerData. I copied my old > > >>> installation folder from my > > >>> XP machine into the AmiBrokerData folder. > > >>> > > >>> I did not see anyplace where I could specify a "support files" path > > >>> during installation. > > >>> > > >>> After installation, I selected the F:\AmiBrokerData\ files for the > > >>> Include path, the Formula path, and the default database path. I did > > >>> not see any way to > > >>> share more files than these. > > >>> > > >>> I had to copy my Layouts files from my old installation into both of > > >>> the new installations. I did not see a way to share one layout folder. > > >>> > > >>> Creating the full installation in the AmiBrokerData folder and then > > >>> copying my old installation folder on top of it seemed like an > > >>> unnecessary step since I > > >>> can't share all those files other than the ones I select in the > > >>> preferences of each install. > > >>> > > >>> I am wondering if it is possible to have both installations 32 & 64 in > > >>> the same folder that is a combination of all files. Broker would have > > >>> to be renamed > > >>> to Broker64 for one of them. My first shot at trying that did not work > > >>> for the Broker64. > > >>> > > >>> Am I missing something here? > > >>> > > >>> Best regards, > > >>> > > >>> Dennis > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> On Aug 7, 2010, at 6:39 PM, Tomasz Janeczko wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> Hello, > > >>>> > > >>>> For what is worth, on my machine 32-bit AB is installed into > > >>>> F:\AmiBroker > > >>>> directory, while 64- bit is installed into > > >>>> F:\AmiBroker64 > > >>>> directory. As you can see none of them are "Program Files". > > >>>> > > >>>> With regards to "sharing" files - technically all files can be used by > > >>>> both versions (are binary compatible) with exception to > > >>>> EXECUTABLE files (all with .EXE and .DLL extensions). In my opinion > > >>>> however, only database files are large enough > > >>>> to make "sharing" them sensible option. > > >>>> > > >>>> Best regards, > > >>>> Tomasz Janeczko > > >>>> amibroker.com <http://amibroker.com/> > > >>>> > > >>>> On 2010-08-07 19:49, Keith McCombs wrote: > > >>>>> Dennis -- > > >>>>> When you do a full install (not an upgrade), AB first asks where to > > >>>>> install AB, and then asks where to install support files (including > > >>>>> all .afl code, > > >>>>> data bases, etc.). Ideally, you would put AB32 in one folder, AB64 > > >>>>> in a second one, and AB support files in a third. The AB support > > >>>>> files would be > > >>>>> shared by AB32 and AB64. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> That's very easy, if you do it from the very start. I have found it > > >>>>> to be more difficult, because I wanted to preserve many years of > > >>>>> historical work, > > >>>>> programs, layouts, watch lists, results, etc.. This is what I did on > > >>>>> my PC after upgrading from Win2k (32bit) to XP64: > > >>>>> 1. Saved all of C:\Program Files\Amibroker\ from Win2K system. > > >>>>> Remaining operations all performed on new XP64 system: > > >>>>> 2. Did a fresh install of AB32 into c:\Program Files\Amibroker\, > > >>>>> including AB32 and all support files. > > >>>>> 3. Copied saved Win2K AB right over AB32 installed in step 2 above. > > >>>>> 4. Did a second fresh install of AB32 on XP64 into c:\Program Files > > >>>>> (x86)\Amibroker\, but with support folder as c:\Program > > >>>>> Files\Amibroker\. > > >>>>> 5. Did a fresh install of AB64 into c:\Program Files\Amibroker\. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> This works for me. I run both AB32 and AB64 interchangeably, though > > >>>>> not simultaneously. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> I would much prefer to have AB support folder outside of any > > >>>>> c:\Program Files ....\. But have not been able to do so, after many > > >>>>> tedious efforts, > > >>>>> including correspondence with AB support. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> BTW, according to TJ, AB32 and AB64 can be installed in any folders. > > >>>>> They do not have to be in c:\Program Files ...\. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Hope this helps. > > >>>>> -- Keith > > >>>>> > > >>>>> BTW, if you manage to somehow set up three different folders, with > > >>>>> all your history preserved in an independent support one, please let > > >>>>> me know how you > > >>>>> did it. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On 8/7/2010 12:20, Dennis Brown wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Hello, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> I just installed a clean upgrade of Windows 7 64 bit as a new > > >>>>>> virtual machine in Parallels on my Mac Pro. I also have an XP 32 bit > > >>>>>> virtual machine that I > > >>>>>> was upgrading from which contains my AmiBroker folder with all the > > >>>>>> associated files. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> I did a full install of AB 64 bit on the new VM. I also have the 64 > > >>>>>> bit IQFeed installed. Everything seems to work fine. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> I can run the XP 32 bit or the W7 64 bit system alternately. I have > > >>>>>> attached the XP virtual C: disk drive to the 64 bit system as > > >>>>>> another drive, so the > > >>>>>> 64 bit system can read or copy over anything from the old system, > > >>>>>> just like it was an external backup drive. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> This made for a very easy upgrade in just a couple of hours last > > >>>>>> night. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> However, I realized, that I am setting myself up for duplicating the > > >>>>>> data for AB which will take a lot of extra disk drive space (I > > >>>>>> really only have one > > >>>>>> disk drive that I run from, even though it is broken up into several > > >>>>>> virtual drives). So, I want to clean up my act and make a separate > > >>>>>> virtual hard > > >>>>>> drive just for the AB stuff. Tomasz has stated that he has a drive > > >>>>>> F: for all his program files, so that he can share them more easily > > >>>>>> between systems. > > >>>>>> That would be very easy for me to set up. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> My question then becomes one of organization of the AB folder so > > >>>>>> that I can have both a 32 bit and a 64 bit version installed, but > > >>>>>> have common files > > >>>>>> between them whenever possible. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> I want to be able to run each alternately, not at the same time. > > >>>>>> This will give me a way to compare performance. It also seems that > > >>>>>> my previously written > > >>>>>> very simple DLL for my Flexible Parameters does not run on the 64 > > >>>>>> bit W7. So, I will have to work on reinventing the wheel from two > > >>>>>> years ago again to > > >>>>>> move forward. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Another advantage of putting the AB stuff in a different virtual > > >>>>>> drive from the rest of the VM is that incremental backups on my Mac > > >>>>>> will be more > > >>>>>> efficient. It might even make sense from that point of view, to > > >>>>>> break the AB stuff up into two virtual disks -- a separate disk for > > >>>>>> the databases which > > >>>>>> could be recovered from a backfill if needed, so it would not need > > >>>>>> multiple incremental backups. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Can this be done? > > >>>>>> Which files can be common between 32 and 64 bit AB? > > >>>>>> Where do I put the 32bit and 64 bit programs so that they can each > > >>>>>> run with the same layouts and formulas and databases? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Best regards, > > >>>>>> Dennis > > >>>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
