Clay, Your proposal makes perfect sense. That is why it probably stands little or no chance of being accepted. It seems that common sense and cooperative coexistence of diverse interests within the hobby are fast disappearing.
While I have a great deal of respect for anyone with a PE. I am very suspicious of anyone, including Mr. Tannehill, who insists upon flaunting their professional credentials to intimidate or otherwise overpower others who have a difference of opinion. We a talking about Amateur radio here! Here is hoping that, in spite of recent fiascos such as BPL, that some sort of reason prevails at the FCC. 73, Jack, W9GT -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Clay Curtiss W7CE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > AM is no different from > > this. It is an old modulation that adds nothing to advancing the > > technological art, and should be > > confined to bands where there is ample spectrum available. > > > > Richard L. Tannehill P.E. - W7RT > > Based on his argument, CW, SSB, FM and RTTY should be eliminated also. All > are VERY old technologies that could be replaced with high tech digital > modes. There's room in ham radio for all of our sub-hobbies. I wish > everyone would quit acting like their particulat interests are the only > valid parts of the hobby. > > Personally, I like operating vintage equipment on AM, chasing DX especially > on 80M and 6M, and designing antennas. I haven't ever used any of the > digital modes which is kind of ironic since I am an Electrical Engineer and > design digital ICs for a living (including some digital modulation systems > that use DSP). I plan to start building on EME station so I may go digital > to work stations below the noise. Somehow I don't think that will be as > satisfying as hearing my own CW echo off the moon though. > > I like to see most HF bands segmented into three regions: > > 1. CW only (probably about 50-75 kHz per band > 2. Digital modes only (another 50-75 kHz per band) > 3. Phone only (SSB, AM, Hi-Fi SSB, FM, and whatever else) on the rest of > the band > > Each region would be exclusive for the specified modes. This would cut down > on cross-mode QRM in general and especially during contests. While not > specified above, a small segment of each band reserved exclusively for > legacy modes (like AM) would be nice. I suspect that this plan is way too > simple for most, but it seems like it would work and it's not that big of > change from the way the HF bands are used today. > > 73, > Clay W7CE > > ______________________________________________________________ > AMRadio mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html > Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net > AMfone Website: http://www.amfone.net > AM List Admin: Brian Sherrod/w5ami, Paul Courson/wa3vjb From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jan 12 13:02:09 2006 Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Original-To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Delivered-To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Received: from smtp.duo-county.com (smtp.duo-county.com [66.38.0.221]) by mailman.qth.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A960859C30 for <amradio@mailman.qth.net>; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 13:02:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from POLARBASE1.mikrotec.com (16-134.dsl.duo-county.com [66.38.16.134]) by bn9.blue.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SMTP) with ESMTP id k0CHvw7G029743 for <amradio@mailman.qth.net>; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:57:58 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:57:55 -0600 To: Discussion of AM Radio <amradio@mailman.qth.net> From: "Anthony W. DePrato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] W7RT In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-BeenThere: amradio@mailman.qth.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: Discussion of AM Radio <amradio@mailman.qth.net> List-Id: Discussion of AM Radio <amradio.mailman.qth.net> List-Unsubscribe: <http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/private/amradio> List-Post: <mailto:amradio@mailman.qth.net> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 18:02:09 -0000 At 03:58 AM 1/12/2006 -0600, W5OMR/Geoff wrote: >If anyone needed to know anymore about W7RT, this should sum it up... > >-Geoff/W5OMR >---------------- yep another old ham like myself who needs to get back on his med's . I can not understand why these guys think that No Code will bring more young people into the hobby. the young people are into computers and gaming. not talking. Ham radio has always been made up of those who had the sprite born in them. it just takes exposure to the hobby to bring it to the surface. I still recall the day i walked into my old Voc. arts class room as a 14 yrs old and the teacher K4UNE SK had setup his R 100 and Globe Chief station on a bench and put up a dipole outside. during lunch that day he showed us all what ham radios was . it only took 15mins and that spark was set . i was in awl amazed and 45 + years later still am. doing away with code and giving away the tickets which is about what we are doing now will not help. we pushed for tech's to get on 10 MT voice and 2 MT fm. we had a great influx the big 3 sold lots of gear the ARRL got lots of new members . DID they upgrade and move on the HF NO only a handful and i would bet that handful were the ones who had that spark lite when they were first exposed. i have been a VE ever since the program started and held theory and code class's long before we could give the tests. to date i have over 200 class's under my belt . and i can say that 95% of those who finished the class and took the test went on to upgrade. a few did not they liked 2 MT fm and emergency nets. a few never renewed. someone said he was too old to learn the code. my youngest was a girl of 7 yrs who passed 13wpm and the oldest was a 79 year old man who passed 13 wpm. so that story does not hold water. i had a friend who got his no code tech. told me he could not learn the code. i worked with him for a week and he had learned all the letters and numbers. now i told him just keep it up for a few more weeks. sad to say after i did not help him every night "work stopped that " he just quite and never tried again. so you have to have the spark that drives you or you will never go on. W7RT had the spark but somewhere along the line his thinking became impaired IMHO. 73 Tony wa4jqs