Hi Stefan, VE4NSA
Keep those blinders on secure! Again you totally miss the point
being made. These "poor" universities struggle along only charging
tuitions of $15K-$50K per student and are taking advantage of hams by
getting a free tracking network. If more institutions would thank
the hams by providing a ham transponder then that would be considered
a good return for out gratuity, but they are few.
I suspect that US hams would be in violation of rules by asking
renumeration for services, but monetary contributions to amsat is
something colleges could do in appreciation for the free tracking and
data collection.
But you twist it into something else.
I have done my time providing free telemetry support. Now my
professional services are available for a price.
You do what you want. WE have our opinion on that.
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stefan Wagener" <wagen...@gmail.com>
To: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8...@tin.it>
Cc: "Kevin Gordon" <kgor...@paradise.net.nz>; "Amsat - BBs"
<amsat-bb@amsat.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Charge for Satellite Tracking?
Again Domenico,
what a sad comment.
No one "makes" you work as a "picker" and no one has forced you to
invest whatever you invested in your equipment.
On the other hand , many of us take pride to assist and help in
building relationships and offering services because we "like" it and
it is fun!
Stefan, VE4NSA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Gordon" <kgor...@paradise.net.nz>
To: <amsat-bb@amsat.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 7:13 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Charge for Satellite Tracking?
> Thank you Domenico.
> You understood my email exactly. Today Universities are commerical.
> Universities and other Commerical organisations need world wide reporting
> services and data collection ("tracking") of satellites.
>
> Only with regard to satellites should Amateur Radio (i.e. AMSAT) change
> its traditional stance ("We are NOT a commercial entity and exist because
> of our traditional support of emergency related situations and our
> experimental nature").
>
> Free ambulance services request a donation. I wish to suggest we request a
> donation "to our amateur radio satellite fund in lieu of tracking
> services".
>
> 73
> Kevin zl1bgk.
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 4:10 AM, i8cvs <domenico.i8...@tin.it> wrote:
> Hi Kevin, ZL1BGK
>
> You are absolutely correct ! I agree with you because if we as Amateur
> Satellite users will stop to collect telemetry for satellites that does
> not provide Amateur Radio Services,then the Universities and Commercial
> organizations will cease to build thousands of Microsats and Nanosats
> only for their own use.
>
> Unfortunately actually we work as pickers up of tennis-ball at no cost
> but investing a lot of money for our equipments.
>
> 73" de
>
> i8CVS Domenico
>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Gordon" <kgor...@paradise.net.nz>
To: <amsat-bb@amsat.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 2:29 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Charge for Satellite Tracking?
> If a satellite does not provide amateur radio services, why not charge for
> satellite tracking?
>
> We could at least ask for a fixed amount per satellite as a donation to
> our amateur radio satellite fund in lieu of tracking services.
>
> Thousands of satellites will be placed in orbit in the coming years. We
> must lay claim to our share of orbit space by placing satellites in orbit.
>
> Just a thought!
>
> Kevin zl1bgk
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