Hi Stefan VE4NSA, Peter DB2OS and folks on BB It should be very nice to have a transponder on the Lunar Lander operating into the X/K band 10,5 GHz Uplink and 24 GHz downlink. As on AO40 the antennas are very small and probably there is room for a transponder.
For a good feasibility and assesment with ESA it would be very important to have also a 24 GHz Beacon relaying to us TLM data concerning some primary ESA experiments. Just my idea. 73" de i8CVS Domenico ----- Original Message ----- From: Stefan Wagener To: i8cvs Cc: Peter Guelzow ; Amsat - BBs Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: European Lunar Lander - Call for Declarations Thanks folks, That's a very helpful and constructive discussion. It will certainly allow for better assessment of the feasibility, options and limitations. Stefan, VE4NSA On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 8:54 PM, i8cvs <domenico.i8...@tin.it> wrote: Hi Peter, DB2OS I was reading the document in particular point 2.2.2 Communication and 2.2.3 but in my opinion the Radio Hams are off side because everyting has been already designed and in my opinion there is no room available on the Lander for a Moon-Earth experimental communication transponder in our L band and S band because our antennas are too big. Since the main 7.2 and 8.5 GHz X band High Gain Antennas of the Lander are oriented toward the Earth in a fixed position to compensate the pointing for libration probably only a 5 watt pep and a circularly polarized horn on our 10.5 GHz should be possible. 73" de i8CVS Domenico ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Guelzow" <peter.guel...@kourou.de> To: <amsat-bb@amsat.org> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 12:57 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: European Lunar Lander - Call for Declarations Hi together, Please also have a look at this document: http://wsn.spaceflight.esa.int/docs/lunarlander/LunarLander_EIDA_CDI_230512. pdf in particular see point 2.2.2 Communication and 2.2.3: "Visibility of the Earth from the landing site imposes the following constraint: • communications shall only be possible within a 13.7 day (TBC) window each month, and shall depend on the availability of the ground station." further: "the mean power available for an individual payload is expected not to exceed 20W" 73s Peter DB2OS On 03.06.2012 00:29, Peter Guelzow wrote: > Check also this discussion from James Miller, G3RUH: > > http://www.amsat.org/amsat/articles/g3ruh/110.html > > > 73s Peter, DB2OS _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb