I am going to keep this as short as possible again, in case I get
misunderstood. The reason originally I didn't want to comment is because I
didn't want to offend anyone with comments that get misunderstood.

Youness I apologise if you understood my comments to mean that you are
racist, that is not what they were meant to mean. What I was trying to say
was that you need to be careful about comments that you say because they
could be taken as being racist comments (similar to a TV show I was watching
last night where 1 of the characters was not gay, but continuously said
things unintentionally that would make people think that he was...). What I
meant was that the comments themselves if they were just read by a bystander
would take them to be racist comments. Reading the paragraph now I can
understand how you may have thought that I was calling you racist, but that
was not the intent. Again it seams I have offended you so I apologise.


> 1 - You say I'm more racist than those cartoons, yet you say you never saw
> them...
I said that before they came up in this thread I hadn't seen them.

> 2 - I said they were drawn by christians or jews because they simply
> couldn't be drawn by a muslim, sorry if I forgot to add "or anyone not
> beleiving in God".
There are many people in this world that don't believe in G-d that could
very easily have drawn those pictures. What I was trying to say was be
careful in the way you state things, I know it wasn't meant to be but saying
'christians or jews' is a racist comment.

> 3 - If you take my sentence from a neutral state and change it into I have
> some hate against both christians and jews, then you really have a
> problem.. you don't know me and never will, don't start saying things
> about me! it's not even in PM!
I agree again after rereading it that that sentence was very badly worded
and I apologise again if you thought that I was attacking you personally.

> 5 - I never wanted to comment on Israel, and I said so many times, when I
> talked about opression, I talked about the world's opression against us,
> when I said killed by Bush and Jews, I corrected myself saying Israel
> (after Phil stated it was Israel, not Jews), and that, no matter what link
> you send me, or what story you want to tell, the fact stays that Israel
> kills many innocent muslims. But still, I don't want to talk about it, as
> I'm no expert in this matter and I just don't care about that story that
> has many different versions and for which I know none of them (never was
> interested by that story).
You say that you have no idea about the situation but still insist that it
is the Israelis that are oppressing. The reason I am so passionate about the
situation there is because I have many friends and relatives that live there
(including my sister). There are many Muslims in Israel that live freely
without being oppressed or killed. It is only the terrorists that get
targeted by Israel (there are an unlucky few bystanders that sometimes get
killed - that is always a tragedy, every innocent person that dies whether
it be Muslim, Jew or other is a huge tragedy).
Philippe sent a link showing stats, but those types of stats don't show
anything - for example how many of the Palestinian 'civilians' that were
killed were carrying weapons or bombs at the time? If they are trying to
fight a war, why aren't they fighting the army? What did my sister do that
she has to wear a bullet proof vest to leave her village because people take
pot shots at cars passing by? Why was my first cousin almost killed when a
suicide bomber blew themselves up about 50 meters from where she was
shopping. What did my family friend do to deserve to die while eating pizza
in a pizza store?
I could go on and on, and start pointing blame here or there, but that is
not for this mailing list. Youness, you said that you never wanted to
comment on Israel, but the fact is that you did, you brought it up and I
felt I needed to defend it

> 7 - I though the subject was important to everyone because it's about
> respect of one's religion, you seem to love your religion, yet, you didn't
> want to act in this subject, as long as the word 'Jew' wasn't pronounced..
> who's the racist ?
I didn't want to comment for fear of being misunderstood and it turns out I
was. I agree that some of the images were disgusting but that doesn't
justify at all the way some people have reacted to it. And the reason that
many people believe the Muslims are a violent people is because of the way
those 'few' react. The problem is that it isn't few in number, but few in
terms of percentage of the entire Muslim people, the fact that there are
many in number makes it seem that it is a higher percentage.




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