On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 13:44:19 -0400 "Youness Alaoui" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> we connect to the reflector and get the information from there and send it > to farsight (yes, done in the beggining, just as MSN does) > we then ask farsight to 'prepare_transports', once they are ready (known > through a callback), we then get information on ourself with farsight api, > and build the outgoing xml (this step could be done in the beggining > depending on who needs to send the xml first, you or the other user)... > this should take care of any upnp, nat traversal stuff, open the ports, > etc... I think the reflector part should be implemented inside the msnwebcam farsight plugin. It never got around to implementing it when I originally wrote the plugin. Also for uPnP, it can/should also be done from inside Farsight. I'm planning on releasing a uPnP wrapper in Farsight core soon that uses clinkc for uPnP. > anyways, that's your call... > if you want to do only protocol stuff, then I can send you what I have on > farsight, so you can continue my work (until next week I guess), the code > is almost done being ported to the new API (spent 3 days on it, maybe only > 1 or 2 days left of work), then we'll need to have a farsight-tcl package > that would wrap all farsight functions to be available from tcl directly > (maybe one more day of work), and finally, amsn needs to have calls to > farsight-tcl... I promise I will try to get the wrapper I had if my old HDD isn't toast. Regards, Philippe > if we do this, we'll be good! webcam support will be much more easier this > way... > what do you think ? > > KaKaRoTo > > > > On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 06:42:21 -0400, Harry Vennik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Ok, I will have a look at Farsight documentation to make sure that what > > I do > > will not be contrary to the way Farsight works. I already thought of a > > good > > frontend/backend separation and (for sending webcam) separation of the > > grabbing and the sending over the network. I don't think waiting for > > Farsight > > to be implemented is the perfect idea, I just need to keep Farsight in > > mind, > > and make my design such that Farsight can easily be used as a backend. > > Anyway, thanks for mentioning, I heard of it before, but did not think > > of it > > now! > > > > About multiple sources... in what I currently have there can be only one > > source at a time. So you choose device for amsn, not per webcam session. > > And > > I think selecting it per session does not really have great advantages, > > and > > will make things unnecessarily more complex, both in development and > > use. But > > if others see advantages in being able to send from one device to one > > contact, and from another device to another contact, I can make it that > > way. > > > > What I currently have in the new code (partially), is most similar to the > > approach we already had on Mac. Have 1 grabber window, and use the image > > from > > that grabber. It appeared most intuitive to me. Seeing myself on any > > webcam-related window I open (except receiving cam from others of > > course), is > > not necessary, seeing the image just once will do perfectly. > > > > If we allow multiple sources, we may have a grabber window for every > > source in > > use, so that isn't even a big change. (Or maybe better... for every > > source a > > tab... unless people really want to see multiple sources. hmmm.... > > detachable > > tabs maybe??) > > > > Okay, just let me know what you all think, and I will try to conform to > > your > > wishes as much as possible ;-) > > > > Harry > > > > Op zondag 30 april 2006 11:21, schreef Philippe Valembois - Phil: > >> Really good idea !! > >> Some time ago I tried to clean up the code and make it clearer.... but I > >> gave up by lack of time... > >> Anyway, I would be happy if you would implement what I had in mind... > >> Currently we can send a preregistered session using a debug hack and it > >> applies to all open webcams... I wanted to generalize the way to grab > >> images... I mean, for each webcam session we could select the source of > >> the > >> image : either a file, a v4l device for linux, a DirectShow device for > >> Windows and so on and make it in a way to be able to add easily another > >> device class (we never know)... > >> If you could do in a such way, it could be great !! :d > >> Phil > >> P.S. I just remind, Youness tried to implement Farsight in aMsn so maybe > >> you should wait for it since it should make the webcam management > >> easier... > >> I leave my mail content anyway since it can bring some ideas for future > >> development ;) > >> But if I understood well, Farsight is to use with gstreamer... And > >> gstreamer will be really powerful to let us do the things I exposed > >> above... > >> > >> Le Sunday 30 April 2006 08:23, Harry Vennik a écrit : > >> > Hi all, > >> > > >> > Just for your information, I started a msncam.tcl rewrite yesterday. > >> > Karel told me about a memleak in it (objects array) and I thought it > >> > would be fairly simple to fix, but while investigating it, I found > >> many > >> > other things that slow the whole thing down, and also it was hard to > >> tell > >> > how to clean up the objects array (i.e. where to do a unset, and what > >> to > >> > unset then). So I had to draw the conclusion that starting from > >> scratch > >> > would be the best way to go. Of course I also copy/paste many code > >> from > >> > the current msncam.tcl, but most of it will be modified. For example, > >> the > >> > objects array will not exist anymore. I am using snit-objects for > >> > everything. > >> > > >> > Of course the rewritten msncam.tcl will not go into the 0.96 release, > >> but > >> > will get in cvs shortly after the release, so it can be thoroughly > >> tested > >> > before it gets into a release. > >> > > >> > I am monitoring all work on the current msncam.tcl to make sure I port > >> > those changes to my new version if they apply to something that is in > >> > there already, but big code-reorganisations will be double work, so > >> > please don't bother ;-) We're in a bugfix-contest-before-release > >> anyway. > >> > > >> > Regards, > >> > > >> > Harry > >> > > >> > > >> > ------------------------------------------------------- > >> > Using Tomcat but need to do more? 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