lol, true, but I'm not afraid about the rewrite of the CW :p It's just Tom I think who asked the question and we started discussing it. If you want, we can also start an endless discussion about the CW :)
KKRT On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 03:33:56PM +0200, Philippe Valembois - Phil wrote: > Hey ! > Could you please stop with all these useless speaking ? I am totally > lost now... > Anyway, all of that is silly because before creating the DL manager we > MUST rewrite all the CW and we haven't do anydiscussion about it... > Using TkHTML or not ? How should we design internals ? How many snits > objects ? and so on... > I know why Youness love this thread : he is like me and many others : he > is afraid of beginning the CW rewrite. > IMO, you should hurry to release 0.97Final to avoid too complicated > merges between trunk and branch. > And overall, we could begin by the new prefs window : that's necessary > to do that and maybe has less impact than CW rewrite... > So stop to worry about a negligible part of the UI there are many more > important things to worry... > Phil > P.S. I can say now that my F7 is ready (took time because I wanted to > clean my compiz/beryl git RPMs). Now I will be ready to code ! Mouahahahah ! > > Youness Alaoui a écrit : > > On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 08:11:38PM +0200, NoWhereMan wrote: > >> Youness Alaoui wrote: > >>> Ok, I see, the hide the mini infobar (I call it like that for the bar > >>> in the CW) when FT managr is opened, I > >>> think it would be confusing, no ? how do you feel about it with that > >>> extension you're using ? > >> when FTman is open (and active) no infobar is shown > >> > > > > I know, I was asking about how it felt usability-wise. > > > >>> Anyways, the main issue you're bringing here is about the DM (FTMan) > >>> being in a tab or not. I explained all my design in a previous mail, > >>> and it was to appear in a tab of the currently focused container > >>> whenever you open > >>> the DM (by either accepting a file and having the option to show when > >>> you start a transfer, or by using the Ctrl-Alt-T hotkey), if you have > >>> multiple containers, then you would have a DM window as a tab in each > >>> container (only if you open the transfer window while having the > >>> container focused). > >> [...] > >> > >> I think that displaying it as a tab in a non-tab-centrical environment may > >> appear confusing; > >> Opera *is* tab-centrical :) > >> > > > > yes, which is why I said if using non-tabs, then have it as a seaparate > > window. Of course it wouldn't be as a > > tab if you have tabs disabled (it wouldn't even be possible because if you > > don't use tabs, you won't have the > > container to put it in). > > Problem I see now is about the menubar, it won't fit for the transfers tab. > > So maybe even if in tabbed mode, it > > should be a separate window... > > > >>> You can always detach the DM tab, or > >>> you can have it appear as a separate window if you don't use tabbed > >>> browsing. Now that I'm thinking about it, it would be good to have an > >>> option for 'show as a tab' or 'show as a standalone window' for when > >>> user has tabbed windows enabled. > >> > >> yep, maybe > >> > >>> You would have one line in the infobar per download currently > >>> happening in the current CW. > >> IMO having one infobar per transfer per contact would be ok. > >> > > yes, + an additional 'download manager', because the infobar is not enough > > to provide all the options, otherwise > > it would be too bloated. > > > >> * Having tabs disabled, each window would have its own group of infobars > >> (maybe with right click options to cancel, pause or whatever you can do > >> with > >> it; ffox has click-to-toggle/untoggle pause); > >> > > right click isn't the best choice, many users don't know that right click > > exists, and on Mac it would be > > difficult because of the command/ctrl-click to activate the right click... > > > >> * if tabs are enabled clicking on a tab would update the infobar with > >> contact's own transfers > >> > > > > well, if the infobar is in the CW, then it wouldn't matter, the buttonbar > > and all that are part of the CW, when > > we switch tab, we switch the whole CW, so infobars would go along with it, > > we don't just replace the > > output/input areas... > > > >> WLM actually stops here (ok, no "infobar" there, it's just an inline > >> widget), you may now want to add the DM; this may show up on demand, right > >> clicking on the infobar or clicking on a "you have N transfers open" link > >> right on the infobar, or whatever... > >> > > > > yeah, that's the idea. The 'you have N transfers open' is a good idea for > > when the user has more than X > > transfers at the same time (3 ?) to avoid having the infobar too big for > > transfer-addict users... > > But anyways, the idea was to have the DM + the infobar, and clicking the > > infobar would bring up the DM. > > > >> Or... well I don't know guys :D just a stream of thoughts... > >> > > > > sure no prob, that's what brainstorming is, right ? You see, you came up > > with a good idea (you have N transfers > > open), and it helped me think of putting that if there are too many > > transfers! > > > >> bye :) > >> > >> -- > >> NoWhereMan (e.v.) > >> -- http://www.nowhereland.it > >> -- http://flatpress.nowhereland.it > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > >> Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > >> control of your XML. No limits. Just data. 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