I like the designs very much. 2 points: * for the url, I like www.amsn-project the most but somehow the "www" prefix is deprecated (http://no-www.org/). Without the prefix you could argue that it isn't clear enough that it's a URL though. Adding http:// might make it too geeky again. I've seen a lot of "domain.be" kind of things already in advertisement so in fact I think most pp will reconise it as a URL .. but that's to be discussed * for the design itself: can it be you're using greyshades now ? Ifso, you shouldn't :). If we choose to only use one color (white) you can have transparant regions where the blue will shine through but you can't use grey ... :) To make the order, I need a black on white pdf where all the black (or greyshades) will become shades of white and the white will be transparant. a pdf or a scalable adobe format is ok.
Karel. 2008/1/27, Tom Hennigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Nice! I like the design! I would vote "http://www.amsn-project.net/"; or > "www.amsn-project.net", but don't really mind either way lol. > > - Tom > > > > On 26 Jan 2008, at 23:48, Lee Olson wrote: > Hello, > > I've put together another example for the t-shirt if we go with the 1-side > design idea (added the website to the front design). Would we want > http://amsn-project.net, www.amsn-project.net, or > http://www.amsn-project.net as the text shown? (personally i think > www.amsn-project.net looks cleaner) > http://www.amsn-project.net/~lee/mockups/amsn-tshirt2.png > > Lee > > On Jan 26, 2008 4:59 AM, Tom Hennigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Heya, > > > > I like the design a lot =] As far as 1 side vs 2, 2 is better for me, > > but 1 seems much more economical, and the idea is to promote aMSN so > > we'll want as many shirts as possible. > > > > If the shirt is only one sided, it may be worth putting > http://amsn-project.net > > somewhere on the front of the shirt... > > > > - Tom > > > > ps. I'm not sure how good the printer is, but the shadow (from the top > > row of 3) under the text may not be clear when it's printed.. > > > > > > > > > > On 26 Jan 2008, at 08:33, Karel Demeyer wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Ik like 'm very much. But, the prices I put on the wiki are for > > > 1sided prints only now. For 2 sides you can do the math, adding an > > > extra cliché cost (25 euro/total) and printing cost (0,40 euro/pc), > > > and adding taxes again. I don't know it the back is really needed as > > > when you wear a bag on your back or some clothes overneith it, the > > > back is always covered .. on the other hand I already made a T-shirt > > > with publicity for an event and we only had a print on the back for > > > it because when ppl want to read it an it's on your back it doesn't > > > make 'm look like theu're staring at you and have them feel at ease. > > > > > > So .. what do you think ? front only (my suggestion), back and front, > > > back only ? > > > > > > Karel. > > > > > > PS: if we decide upon this one, I'll need the desin in a > > > black-on-white scalable PDF (or adobe scalable grafics file format) > > > > > > 2008/1/26, Lee Olson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > >> Hi Everyone, > > >> > > >> Please take a look at the t-shirt design idea that I came up with > > >> and let me > > >> know which version you like best. Feel free to leave other > > >> suggestions if > > >> you have any. > > >> > http://www.amsn-project.net/~lee/mockups/amsn-tshirt.png > > >> > > >> Thanks! > > >> Lee > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On Jan 25, 2008 12:57 AM, Youness Alaoui > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> > > > >> wrote: > > >>> Hey, > > >>> Great to see you! > > >>> Here's the current status : > > >> http://www.amsn-project.net/wiki/FOSDEM_2008 > > >>> There's a shirt design there, and a link to a design made by a > > >>> forumer.. > > >> if you could read the details and take a look to see if you can > > >> come up > > >>> with something!! we need a graphics artist's skills on this one :) > > >>> > > >>> take care! > > >>> > > >>> KaKaRoTo > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 12:55:00AM -0600, Lee Olson wrote: > > >>>> Hi Everyone, > > >>>> > > >>>> Sorry to respond so late on this, but if you still need some > > >>>> touch-ups > > >> done > > >>>> on the T-shirt design, please let me know. I'll also be in the > > >>>> amsn > > >> channel > > >>>> as leeo if you would like to discuss it more. > > >>>> > > >>>> Thanks! > > >>>> Lee > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> On Jan 21, 2008 1:36 AM, Karel Demeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> Hi, I'll answer both your mails at once; > > >>>>> > > >>>>> about the colors: we can have as many colors as we want but it > > >>>>> weill > > >> cost > > >>>>> per color a "clich" and a print .. and then still, you'll have > > >>>>> only 2 > > >>>>> colors, not all the combinations of this colors (this is not the > > >>>>> same > > >> like > > >>>>> when you print posters, where you pay for each color but if you > > >>>>> choose > > >> 3 > > >>>>> good colors you can make about anything). Which means when we > > >>>>> would > > >> have 2 > > >>>>> colors it would still suck. Therefor I think it's better to > > >>>>> make it > > >> only > > >>>>> one color .. you can have lighter shades of this color but this > > >>>>> won't > > >> make > > >>>>> the background really shine through (don't know if I'm > > >> understandable). > > >>>>> Ok, if we give out the T-shirts to a lot of ppl, we About the > > >> senshould'n > > >>>>> have the "crew" thing on it. Let's just drop it. I hope Lee or > > >>>>> Gus > > >> or Tom > > >>>>> or whoever can help us out as I'm not all that good with this > > >>>>> kind of > > >>>>> graphics (though I know some things about "spatial" design, > > >>>>> maybe you > > >> could > > >>>>> see this ;)). > > >>>>> For the prices .. I'll calculate 'm for 100 pcs and update the > > >>>>> wiki. > > >>>>> normally from 100 pcs and up we'll have a discount. I got the > > >>>>> prices > > >> from > > >>>>> their website (which is ugly and Dutch-only: > > >>>>> http://www.proshirt.be/Prijslijst.htm). I already > > >> had 3 shirts made there > > >>>>> in the last year and those ppl have always be great and it's the > > >> cheapest > > >>>>> solution in my surroundings (I did a research for this a year > > >>>>> ago and > > >>>>> checked out several firms, things could have changed by now but I > > >> don't > > >>>>> think it will be much). > > >>>>> For the T-shirt design, the available colors (for the shirt) are: > > >> white, > > >>>>> ash, black, navy, natural, sand, chocolat, gold, orange, red, > > >>>>> 3xblue, > > >> denim, > > >>>>> brick, burgundy, 2xgreen, grey, abricot, mistygreen > > >>>>> If you don't know what these are, the most of 'm are on wikipedia, > > >> though > > >>>>> I don't know what 3xblue and 2xgreen are ... > > >>>>> > > >>>>> So I'll update the wiki, stay stuned! > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Karel. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> PS: the design should be sort of finished in a week for the best > > >>>>> as, > > >> if > > >>>>> they wouldn't have our choice of shirt in stock anymore enough it > > >> would take > > >>>>> some weeks. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> 2008/1/21, Youness Alaoui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> By the way, just saw the prices, and it's really good.. but the > > >>>>>> calculations should be done on a different amount.. 50 or maybe > > >> 100.. 25 is > > >>>>>> for sure > > >>>>>> too low, 50 is probably good, 100 is overkill but will allow us > > >>>>>> to > > >> give > > >>>>>> some at fosdem and bring a few to our girlfriends :p > > >>>>>> + The list of contributers in the wiki probably needs more > > >>>>>> names.. > > >> if we > > >>>>>> add all the translators, we could easily blow up the 50 people > > >> point... > > >>>>>> In any case, for 100 shirts, it would make it 4.48 euros per > > >>>>>> shirt, > > >>>>>> which is also a very good price (unless they do an even better > > >>>>>> price > > >> for 100 > > >>>>>> shirts.. if not, we'll take 101 and get a discount :p > > >>>>>> Karel, can you give us those numbers? Also maybe adding a link to > > >> where > > >>>>>> you got that info, the website or whatever (unless you went there > > >> and asked > > >>>>>> face to face). > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> About the shirt design, now I see it with the blue.. and it's not > > >> that > > >>>>>> great... Maybe if it was on a real shirt design, to see how/ > > >>>>>> where it > > >> would > > >>>>>> be > > >>>>>> placed, it would look better.. anyways, a bit of work is needed > > >> there > > >>>>>> and we should get someone to do it. I'll try to reach Lee or > > >>>>>> TomJ. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> KaKaRoTo > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> On Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 04:41:23PM -0500, Youness Alaoui wrote: > > >>>>>>> Yeah, sure, I gave my comments to vivia and I think she game > > >>>>>>> them > > >> to > > >>>>>> you.. > > >>>>>>> mainly, the 'development CREW'.. the 'CREW' is too big... and we > > >> want > > >>>>>> to avoid specific stuff like that since it would be best to > > >>>>>> have one > > >> t shirt > > >>>>>> and > > >>>>>>> give it to all (contributers, forumers, etc..), and we also > > >>>>>>> would > > >> like > > >>>>>> to give some of the shirts at FOSDEM to 'promote' amsn. > > >>>>>>> The logo is ok with me, but I undrstood that we can only have it > > >> in > > >>>>>> one color ? would have been nice to have the blue/green real > > >>>>>> logo as > > >> we > > >>>>>>> currently have it on aMSN. > > >>>>>>> Oh, and the sentence in the bottom, no locking in, no locking > > >> out... > > >>>>>> hum.. it takes hours of thinking to understand the meaning.. we > > >> should > > >>>>>> probably > > >>>>>>> find another tag line :) > > >>>>>>> That's it. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> KaKaRoTo > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 10:40:21AM +0100, Karel Demeyer wrote: > > >>>>>>>> On a slightly other note: could you please check the wiki page > > >> for > > >>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>> Tshirt-design ? I got some comments from Vivia about the > > >>>>>>>> slogan > > >> and > > >>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>> logo. About the logo: I'm not an svg artist. If the logo > > >>>>>>>> isn't > > >>>>>> allright I > > >>>>>>>> hope Gus can fix it :). For the slogan: give some ideas as > > >> quickly > > >>>>>> as you > > >>>>>>>> can. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Karel. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> 2008/1/20, Youness Alaoui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Thanks all for answering so fast!!! > > >>>>>>>>> Anyways, just an update, Phil and I decided that we should > > >> fund > > >>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>> accomodation for everyone. So we'll choose a nice hotel near > > >> the > > >>>>>> conference > > >>>>>>>>> WITH > > >>>>>>>>> WIFI! :) > > >>>>>>>>> You guys will only have to worry about the transportation and > > >> not > > >>>>>> about > > >>>>>>>>> the additional cost of the hotel. > > >>>>>>>>> We can still fund some of you who don't have the money and > > >> want to > > >>>>>> come. > > >>>>>>>>> note: Funding is for developers ONLY. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> And by the way, registration to the FOSDEM conference is free, > > >> so > > >>>>>> you > > >>>>>>>>> don't need to add that as an extra cost.. just the price of > > >> the > > >>>>>> train/plane > > >>>>>>>>> to > > >>>>>>>>> get there + your food + gifts if any, etc.. the conference is > > >>>>>> free, the > > >>>>>>>>> hotel is free (paid by us) and we can pay some or all of the > > >>>>>> travel expense > > >>>>>>>>> (depending if you live in france or australia :p). > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> KaKaRoTo > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 07:27:46PM -0500, Youness Alaoui > > >> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > > >>>>>>>>>> We've just had a very exciting discution over IRC about the > > >>>>>> upcoming > > >>>>>>>>> FOSDEM conference in brussel. We are at least 6 aMSN > > >> developers > > >>>>>> who will be > > >>>>>>>>>> attending this conference (not initially intending to do so, > > >> but > > >>>>>> in > > >>>>>>>>> order to meet up with other amsn devs, yes..), so this year's > > >>>>>> FOSDEM > > >>>>>>>>> conference > > >>>>>>>>>> will be an official/unofficial meeting place for aMSN > > >>>>>> developers! :) > > >>>>>>>>>> The conference will be at brussels on the 23th and 24th of > > >>>>>> february > > >>>>>>>>> (saturday and sunday), everyone is invited to come, and it > > >> would > > >>>>>> be great to > > >>>>>>>>> be > > >>>>>>>>>> able to meet all of you guys! > > >>>>>>>>>> The aMSN Project can fund some of you if you don't have any > > >>>>>> money to go > > >>>>>>>>> there. Funding could be for the train/plane/hotel. You are > > >>>>>> encouraged to > > >>>>>>>>> fund > > >>>>>>>>>> yourself if you can, but if you can't, don't hesitate to > > >> ask. > > >>>>>> Funding > > >>>>>>>>> will be limited and only available to developers. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> I've set up a wiki page that you can fill > > >>>>>>>>> http://www.amsn-project.net/wiki/FOSDEM_2008 > > >>>>>>>>>> If your name does not appear in there, we'll consider you're > > >> not > > >>>>>> going. > > >>>>>>>>>> It might also be useful to have everyone's cell phone number > > >>>>>> (for those > > >>>>>>>>> attending), but for privacy reasons, do not put them on the > > >> wiki, > > >>>>>> so send me > > >>>>>>>>>> your phone numbers by mail, I'll build a phonebook and send > > >> a > > >>>>>> copy to > > >>>>>>>>> those that will be joining us, so we can more efficiently meet > > >> up > > >>>>>> and not > > >>>>>>>>> get > > >>>>>>>>>> lost. > > >>>>>>>>>> Many details are still missing but hopefully we'll figure > > >> out > > >>>>>> everything > > >>>>>>>>> soon enough. > > >>>>>>>>>> For now, no 'limit date' to 'apply' is set, but sometimes > > >> soon > > >>>>>> we'll > > >>>>>>>>> have to close the deal and say that anyone not having his list > > >> in > > >>>>>> the wiki > > >>>>>>>>> will > > >>>>>>>>>> not be considered as joining us (you can still come, but you > > >>>>>> might not > > >>>>>>>>> get a t-shirt, or you might have to find hotel/accomodations > > >> by > > >>>>>> yourself, > > >>>>>>>>>> etc...). > > >>>>>>>>>> Someone promoting himself as secretary/organizer/whatever > > >> would > > >>>>>> be > > >>>>>>>>> welcomed, I'm not a good organizer, so don't count on me for > > >>>>>> reserving > > >>>>>>>>>> flights/hotels so if someone can do it, that would be cool > > >> to > > >>>>>> have it > > >>>>>>>>> well organized. > > >>>>>>>>>> The conference is in 5 weeks, so start looking right now at > > >> your > > >>>>>> travel > > >>>>>>>>> possibilities! > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> See you soon! :) > > >>>>>>>>>> KaKaRoTo > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>>>>>>>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > >>>>>>>>>> Defy all challenges. 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