Sorry if this has already been answered, but do we know how many people have DNT set?
On Tuesday, January 13, 2015, Nuria Ruiz <nu...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > >However, I also see a clear use-case for when I would like to not be > tracked at all > > I'd advocate for a "Do Not Log Anything At All" header that would allow > us to respect such a preference. > I much agree with Christian's that using "do not track" for total-opt-out > is a good usage of the header, implementing another one seems overkill and > I doubt we are going to go that route code wise, more so when do not track > is available on the javascript navigator object: > https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/navigator.doNotTrack > > FYI that we have WIP changes to honor the do not track header in event > logging. We should be deploying those in the near future. > > > >We'd be making some bold and wasteful assumptions on behalf of our users. > Giving users ability to turn off all tracking by using a header called "do > not track" is pretty intuitive. Assuming that many of our users equal "do > not track" with "do not send my data" is is not assuming too much, "third > party tracking" is a pretty technical concept. > > > > > On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Aaron Halfaker <ahalfa...@wikimedia.org > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ahalfa...@wikimedia.org');>> wrote: > >> I think that the conclusion that you draw from that study is sketchy. >> They're really only asking what people think of when they read the words >> "Do Not Track". I'd be more interested in knowing what people expect when >> then look at their particular browser setting and what it is they actually >> hope it will accomplish. This naivety seems to come through clearly in the >> results. The plurality thought it had nothing to do with their >> relationship with the site they were visiting at all. >> >> The most frequent answer (33%) was that Do Not Track would affect their >>> Internet history. >>> For example, one participant wrote, “It would stop my browser from >>> tracking my browsing >>> history” >> >> >> Regardless of how people interpret the words "Do", "Not" and "Track", I >> see a clear use case for requesting that activities not be used to track me >> between websites. It seems like that was what Do Not Track was designed to >> do. >> >> However, I also see a clear use-case for when I would like to not be >> tracked at all. I'd advocate for a "Do Not Log Anything At All" header >> that would allow us to respect such a preference. >> >> Really, I don't see good reason to jam one use case into something it so >> apparently wasn't designed for. We'd be making some bold and wasteful >> assumptions on behalf of our users. >> >> -Aaron >> >> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Christian Aistleitner < >> christ...@quelltextlich.at >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','christ...@quelltextlich.at');>> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 02:24:02PM -0600, Aaron Halfaker wrote: >>> > > Do Not Track is a technology and policy proposal that enables users >>> to opt >>> > > out of *tracking by websites they do not visit*, [...] >>> > >>> > >>> > Do not track is explicitly for third party tracking. We are merely >>> > proposing to count those people who do access our sites. >>> >>> The first/third party distinction and expemptions are clearly cut in >>> technical documents (although along different lines in different >>> commentaries). However, from my point of view, this distinction >>> ignores real-life users. >>> >>> I for one don't want to spend half an hour to figure out which parts >>> of a page are first/third party. I'd just expect the gathering/using >>> of data to stop altogether. >>> >>> And according to [1], I am not the only user who feels this way: >>> >>> Preliminary results suggest that users do not share nearly so >>> nuanced view of tracking, but rather simply expect data collection >>> and use to cease when they click a Do Not Track button. >>> >>> One can always do better than the minimum requirements of a standard. >>> For DNT, one can always choose to interpret it in a more restrictive >>> way and thereby move closer to the expectation of the users of the >>> above study. >>> >>> Have fun, >>> Christian >>> >>> >>> [1] A. M. McDonald and J. M. Peha, "Track Gap: Policy Implications of >>> User Expectations for the `Do Not Track' Internet Privacy Feature," >>> 39th Telecommunications Policy Research Conference (TPRC), 2011. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ---- quelltextlich e.U. ---- \\ ---- Christian Aistleitner ---- >>> Companies' registry: 360296y in Linz >>> Christian Aistleitner >>> Kefermarkterstrasze 6a/3 Email: christ...@quelltextlich.at >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','christ...@quelltextlich.at');> >>> 4293 Gutau, Austria Phone: +43 7946 / 20 5 81 >>> Fax: +43 7946 / 20 5 81 >>> Homepage: http://quelltextlich.at/ >>> --------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Analytics mailing list >>> Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org');> >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Analytics mailing list >> Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org');> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >> >> >
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