Thanks a lot for the info, Joseph and Nuria. These "none" referrers are problematic for all the analytics teams out there, it seems. When searching about around the issue of "none" referrers, I found that it even drove Groupon to conduct an iffy experiment: they "deindexed" themselves from Google for about 6 hours, finding that "Up To 60% Of “Direct” [i.e., referrer '-'] Traffic Is Actually Organic Search"... https://searchengineland.com/60-direct-traffic-actually-seo-195415
Bob On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 4:29 PM Nuria Ruiz <nr...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > Hello, > > See https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T195880 for info on "none" > referrers. > > Thanks, > > Nuria > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 6:10 AM Joseph Allemandou < > jalleman...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > >> Hi Robert >> >> From the `WHERE` clause here: >> >> https://github.com/wikimedia/analytics-refinery-source/blob/master/refinery-job/src/main/scala/org/wikimedia/analytics/refinery/job/ClickstreamBuilder.scala#L283 >> you can see that we bundloe altogether desktop, mobile-web and mobile-app >> rows. >> >> As for the reason of so many empty referrers, I don't know myself, but I >> know it's been a topic already discussed. >> IIRC Nuria and Jon Katz looked into it a bit, and more recently Isaac >> Johnson (all in direct copy). >> >> Cheers >> Joseph >> >> On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 9:03 AM Robert West <w...@cs.stanford.edu> wrote: >> >>> Hi Analytics team, >>> >>> Quick question: >>> Does the Clickstream data >>> <https://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/clickstream/readme.html> lump >>> together *mobile and desktop?* >>> It seems to be hinted at here >>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Wikipedia_clickstream>, but >>> it's not mentioned explicitly. It just says that the 2015 data is for >>> desktop only, which seems to imply that after that it's desktop + mobile. >>> >>> Also, I was wondering if anyone has any insights into what might cause >>> *referrers >>> to be empty?* I tried googling, but the issue is clouded in mystery and >>> seems to depend a lot on browser and website specificities. Any insights >>> (small or big) would be appreciated! >>> >>> Thanks a lot! >>> Bob >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Analytics mailing list >>> Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >>> >> >> >> -- >> Joseph Allemandou (joal) (he / him) >> Sr Data Engineer >> Wikimedia Foundation >> > _______________________________________________ > Analytics mailing list > Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >
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