Sun would never have freely licensed their mobile JVM/KVM, they made way too much money for that. The problem for Oracle now is the emergence of iPhone and Android is seriously chipping away at Java ME distribution on handsets. Now you have countries intending to ban blackberry service (which uses Java ME for it's applications). Android devices are a likely replacement for blackberry users who are outside of the US.
Sun did realize the potential threat of Android early; but Sun's solution was to do more market research and study before acting, while Google charged forward and executed. It was really sad to see Sun go like it did. They did so many good things for various communities. They created the JCP to get industry involvement in numerous specs, including mobile; but in many ways the JSR groups could be dysfunctional, slow and ineffective (imagine having ego driven techies from numerous handset manufactures in the same room). In the end, Sun was like a deer in the headlights, unable to adapt to rapid industry changes. Google kept tight control of the technology and didn't need to build consensuses for it's mobile technologies. On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:46 AM, DanH <danhi...@ieee.org> wrote: > Hard to say. I don't know if the tendency in lawsuits is to list the > most significant first, or the least significant. > > Can't speak to the possibility of copyright infringement. If the > developers of the Android environment have good documentation for > using "cleanroom" procedures that's a big help, but doesn't get them > out of the woods. Without that documentation it could be a bit rough. > > I do wish that Sun had fully opensourced and open licensed Java like > they were planning to several years back. I'm guessing the plan was > killed when Oracle began negotiating with them. > > On Aug 13, 1:18 pm, Fabrizio Giudici <fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it> > wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On 8/13/10 19:08 , DanH wrote: > > > > > Yeah, I saw the list of patents, and commented above that from the > > > titles they likely were pretty narrow. This is going to be an > > > angels- on-the-head-of a-pin battle. > > > > To complete the scenario, I've been pointed to that in the complaint > > there's also a copyright violation allegation, regarding Java itself. > > It is not clear to what it refers to and I still believe that there > > are not Sun bits in Android. In any case, it is cited after the seven > > patents, so I think that the last ones are the real core of the case. > > > > - -- > > Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager > > Tidalwave s.a.s. - "We make Java work. Everywhere." > > java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici -www.tidalwave.it/people > > fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) > > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla -http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > > > iEYEARECAAYFAkxljGYACgkQeDweFqgUGxeG3ACfUTWGMGoaaXaIlTLRyBzkKO8l > > vZgAoIG/tPMa12OEydov+FzsM4p6Ml7w > > =Jlky > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Android Developers" group. > To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<android-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en > -- Shane Isbell (Founder of ZappMarket) http://apps.facebook.com/zappmarket/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
