That's exactly what worries me and seems rather unlikely, since that would render using the directions API impossible on mobile devices.
Best regards, Filip Havlicek 2010/8/24 Spiral123 <cumis...@gmail.com> > thanks for the response....but still not clear to me. > > As the request to Google directions is an httpget I assumed that the > 2500 limit would be per unique ip address (which as there is no cookie > involved is what I believe will be the only unique identifier that > google will see on the request hitting their servers). If you are > connected via 3G and sharing an IP with thousands of others, that > might cause a problem.....connected via WiFi would be much less of an > issue. > > did I miss something? > > > On Aug 24, 1:54 pm, Brad Gies <rbg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Yeah.. it's confusing.... > > > > What I did was change my code to send all requests from my phone apps to > > my server. Then I check to see if I already have it, and return the > > results from my server. If I don't already have it, then I request it > > from the Google server. I guess my new way makes it easier for them to > > figure it out, but I also make considerably less requests so haven't had > > any problems lately. > > > > I think the navigation companies don't exploit it, because according to > > the TOS, it must be used with Google Maps... and I'm pretty sure the > > navigation companies know that Google has a few lawyers :). > > > > Brad. > > > > On 24/08/2010 9:57 AM, Filip Havlicek wrote: > > > > > Hi Brad, > > > > > thanks for your information from a practical experience with this, > > > although it just seems weird. Why navigation companies doesn't exploit > > > this? And how do they figure it out? Since you can make a request from > > > your phone as well as from a desktop application or even your browser. > > > Binding the limit to IP address seems awfully unfair since when > > > connecting the phone through your telephone provider, you get the same > > > IP address as tens, maybe even hundreds of other users. That would > > > seriously limit application's usability in these cases (= mobile > > > applications). > > > > > Best regards, > > > Filip Havlicfek > > > > > PS: I'm "arguing" about this matter since I'm seriously interested in > > > it and would like to see some proofs instead of assumptions. No harsh > > > feelings :) > > > > > 2010/8/24 Brad Gies <rbg...@gmail.com <mailto:rbg...@gmail.com>> > > > > > Just to clear up what might be a little confusion... The limit is > > > 2,500 per "Developer", "Key", or "Website", not for "All Apps for > > > anyone". ... I don't know how they figure it out either....but I > > > can tell you that when I have used more than that limit for more > > > than a couple of days in a row, I was cut off for 24 hours :). > > > > > They also state that it is meant to be used to make a query one > > > time, and that you should cache the results (and follow the TOS) > > > instead of calling it again, and if you do that, you will find you > > > don't use it to the limit very often :). > > > > > On 24/08/2010 12:31 AM, Filip Havlicek wrote: > > > > > And you are sure based on what? Your assumption? I'm just > > > telling you what is written. > > > > > "Use of the Google Directions API is subject to a query limit > > > of 2,500 directions requests per day." > > > > > Nothing else is written there about the public limitations. > > > I'm pretty sure the limitations is for all the applications > > > because 1) for public usage, you don't need any key 2) from > > > user point of view, who would request 2500 directions per day? > > > I'm sure practical user maximum would be around 100-200 > > > request. And this limitation is there IMHO for rendering usage > > > of this API in a core of commercial navigation softwares (ie > > > TomTom) impossible, because they would make a lot of money on > > > this basic API (I don't own any of this software, but from > > > what I know, that's just what they do - > > > directions+maps+reading, that could be done with Google APIs > > > in a few days). > > > > > Although I'm sure I can be ultimately wrong (although in that > > > case, I would be curious why noone would be exploiting these > > > APIs to make profit). > > > > > Best regards, > > > Filip Havlicek > > > > > 2010/8/24 davemac <davemac...@gmail.com > > > <mailto:davemac...@gmail.com> <mailto:davemac...@gmail.com > > > <mailto:davemac...@gmail.com>>> > > > > > That doesn't sound quite right. I'm sure that the limit is > > > either > > > based on the signature of the app (questionable) or based > > > somehow on > > > the user who's using it. Either way I'm not sure how Google > > > could > > > possibly figure either one out. If it's the latter as I > > > suspect, then > > > I should be fine using the Directions API in my app, with > > > some sort of > > > notice to the user that only 2500 requests per day are > > > allowed. If > > > it's the former, then I'm most likely out of luck. > > > > > Anyone else know? > > > > > - dave > > > > > On Aug 22, 11:31 am, Filip Havlicek > > > <havlicek.fi...@gmail.com <mailto:havlicek.fi...@gmail.com> > > > <mailto:havlicek.fi...@gmail.com > > > <mailto:havlicek.fi...@gmail.com>>> wrote: > > > > As far as I know, the 2500 requests per day is for all > > > applications out > > > > there (be it desktop, mobile or whatever), so your > application > > > really can't > > > > rely on this directions API since it can be brought offline > in > > > less then an > > > > hour by all the applications using it. (And in my opinion > that's > > > why noone > > > > is using it for anything but debugging.) > > > > > > 2010/8/22 davemac <davemac...@gmail.com > > > <mailto:davemac...@gmail.com> > > > <mailto:davemac...@gmail.com <mailto:davemac...@gmail.com>>> > > > > > > > I would love to be able to use the Directions API in my > > > Android app, > > > > > but I'm confused by the information in the Directions API > > > > > documentation: > http://code.google.com/apis/maps/documentation/directions/ > > > > > so the short form of my question is: can Android apps use > the > > > Google > > > > > Directions API? > > > > > > > It clearly states the intended audience includes mobile > > > developers. > > > > > But it also states that you're limited to 2500 requests per > > > day. Does > > > > > this mean my app, if deployed to thousands of devices, is > > > in total > > > > > restricted to 2500 requests per day? How could the Google > > > server tell > > > > > anyway? Based on IP address? In which case I may be okay. > > > The docs > > > > > also say no API key is required so again it would seem the > > > Google > > > > > servers have nothing to use to accumulate a counter of > > > requests per > > > > > day. Still, I don't want to be in violation of any Google > > > Terms of > > > > > Service. > > > > > > > So is it okay or not? 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