*Edit.  Sorry, first sentence after "1." should read:

IT seems that the fact that 66 pixels shows on my Galaxy as 8mm,
when it should be 10mm (based on provided dpi), ISN'T DUE to a false
dpi
returned from DisplayMetrics.

On May 12, 12:29 pm, Ab <abe.oppenh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Diane,
>
> Thank you for your reply.  I have 2 quick follow up questions:
>
> 1. I seems that the fact that 66 pixels shows on my Galaxy as 8mm,
> when it should be 10mm (based on provided dpi), is do to a false dpi
> returned from DisplayMetrics.  The Galaxy screen measures 3.5 inches
> wide, and the specs that its resolution is 1024 x 600.  So, 600/3.5 =
> 171.48.  Which is close enough to 168.89 that it doesn't explain the
> 2mm difference in button size.  Am I incorrect in my thought that
> there is something else causing this discrepancy?
>
> 2. What is your recommendation to display a relatively consistently
> sized button?  Possibly have different layouts for extra large
> devices, set the button dimensions to 50dip on regular devices, and
> 75dip on extra large devices?
>
> On May 12, 12:10 pm, Dianne Hackborn <hack...@android.com> wrote:
>
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> > Sorry as things are today you basically can't do this because many devices
> > are not reporting the correct true screen dpi.  If they did, the correct way
> > to do this would be to use a physical unit for your dimensions --- that is
> > "10mm" if you want 10mm.  But as I say, there are many devices out there
> > that are not configured with the correct physical screen dpi do these units
> > are at this point not usable.
>
> > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Ab <abe.oppenh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I want to put a toolbar in my application. The toolbar will use
> > > ImageViews as application buttons. I would like the ImageViews to be
> > > the exact same size regardless device; by "same size" I mean that,
> > > when rendered to the screen, if I measure them with a ruler, the
> > > dimensions will be the same. I would like this size to be ~10mm (the
> > > width of my index finger).
>
> > > I have been completely unsuccessful in accomplishing this.
>
> > > I am testing on a MDPI, large screen Acer Iconia Tab and a HDPI medium
> > > screen Samsung Galaxy Tab. If I set layout_width="50dip" and
> > > layout_height="50dip", the buttons render as ~10mm on the Samsung, and
> > > ~8mm on the Acer. If I set the buttons as layout_width="12mm" and
> > > layout_height="12mm", they render as 12mm on the Acer and ~9mm on the
> > > Galaxy (confusing that 50dip renders bigger on the Galaxy than the
> > > Acer, but 12 mm renders smaller on the Galaxy than on the Acer).
>
> > > If I place a 32pix x 32pix icon in my drawable-mdpi folder (and no
> > > equivalent in the drawable-hdpi folder), and set
> > > layout_width="wrap_content" and layout_height="wrap_content"; the
> > > results are similar to if set to 50dip, the Samsung is about 10mm, the
> > > Acer about 8mm. If I add a 48pix x 48pix icon to my drawable-hdpi
> > > folder, there is no change; presumably because the Acer still uses the
> > > mdpi icon and the Samsung uses the bigger one, but scales it down by
> > > 50% because it knows its hdpi (if am confident that this surprising
> > > scaling occurs because if I move the 48pix icon to the mdpi folder,
> > > and have nothing in the hdpi folder, the icon shows very large on the
> > > Samsung).
>
> > > I then attempted to calculate the number of pixels necessary for 10mm
> > > based on the values of xdpi and ydpi from DisplayMetrics: 10 mm in
> > > pixels = xdpi * 10 / 25.4.  On the galaxy, this is  168.89 * 10 / 25.4
> > > = 66.  However, when I set the layout_width to 66, the button measured
> > > ~8mm wide.  But, at 168.89 dpi, the dots per mm should be 6.64
> > > (168.89/25.4), so 66pixels should be approximately 10mm.  So, how
> > > could it measure 8mm?  The Galaxy must be scaling down the layout
> > > parameters somehow. Is there any way to retrieve how much they are
> > > scaling down by, so that I can adjust for it?
>
> > > I am confused and could really use advice. How do I make my button
> > > fingertip sized regardless of dpi and screen size?
>
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> > Dianne Hackborn
> > Android framework engineer
> > hack...@android.com
>
> > Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to
> > provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails.  All such
> > questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and
> > answer them.

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