Can you please continue this discussion on android-discuss where it belongs?
But it is nice to know that I'm now cool... I appreciate that. :) On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 3:18 PM, mashpl...@gmail.com <mashpl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > The phone mindset is wrong, consumers are not like they were in the > 80's, now the average user is quickly growing into a "terminal window" > and root access. The kid's are into mashing everything just look at > the sites they make on facebook. Not only are they comfortable with > terminal windows and root access but they can code. > > Phones for dummy's is old school. It for a time when nerds were > uncool and users were computer illiterate. The world has changed but > the telecom mindset has not.... > > - V > > On Dec 21, 5:50 pm, Al Sutton <a...@funkyandroid.com> wrote: >> I'd prefer to see more Android 'phones in the hands of users than to see >> every Android phone have a developer mode. >> >> The G1 is a consumer device and should be designed as such (including >> things like minimising/eliminating the possibility for users to brick >> the device by using a home-brew firmware). The DP1 is the dev 'phone >> which you can brick to your hearts content if you so wish. >> >> Yes it's annoying that the DP1 was only announced after many of us had >> bought G1s, yes it would be nice to have a G1 that we could use like a >> DP1, but that's not the main purpose the G1 is designed to serve. >> >> Al. >> >> >> >> mashpl...@gmail.com wrote: >> > Hi Thanks for responding, sorry for posting in the wrong place but >> > this is the group that's impacted. I think the open community can >> > respond possibly using a open source license that does not allow >> > "TIVO" style hardware lock-down. In addition Google can provide >> > certification programs that require device manufacturers to >> > demonstrate open implementations of Android in order to use the >> > Android logo. Last Google could market their "unlocked" developer >> > phone for general use. >> >> > ps. is your book available yet? I just looked at your website, good >> > luck with your business model. >> >> > On Dec 21, 10:37 am, Mark Murphy <mmur...@commonsware.com> wrote: >> >> >> First, this sort of topic belongs on [android-discuss], since this list >> >> is for assistance on application development. >> >> >> mashpl...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >>> Please do not allow the carriers to lock the phones down. >> >> >> Android is licensed under the Apache License 2.0. Hardware manufacturers >> >> and carriers can do what they wish within the confines of that license. >> >> >> If you want to complain about locked-down phones, complain to carriers >> >> and device makers. Hope that some innovative device makers make devices >> >> that are not locked down, and that the market rewards them for it. >> >> >> -- >> >> Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy)http://commonsware.com >> >> _The Busy Coder's Guide to Android Development_ Version 1.9 Published! >> >> -- >> ====== >> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the >> company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House, >> 152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK. >> >> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not >> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's >> subsidiaries. > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
