On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 7:10 PM, Qwavel <qwa...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Is there any update on this?
>
> Specifically, have decisions been made about whether to limit
> bluetooth comm to paired devices - as discussed below?
>

We are unlikely to have this in the first Bluetooth API release. I don't
think developers would be very excited about us holding up a first release
while we debate and then implement this.

That doesn't mean we can not add it later. Android moves pretty quick.


> Thanks,
> Tom.
>
> On Dec 22 2008, 1:01 am, Qwavel <qwa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Nick,
> >
> > Thanks for participating in this open conversation about thebluetooth
> > API - this is the first time that I'm aware of that outside developers
> > have had the opportunity to express themselves at this stage in the
> > development of a phone OS/API.
> >
> > As I'm sure you are aware,Bluetoothdata connection between apps are
> > supported by JSR82.  To the best of my knowledge, the only platform on
> > which pairing is required for these connections is the Blackberry.  As
> > far as I can tell, this was done for the pretense of security since
> > the platform was originally only targeted at the enterprise market.
> > On the Blackberry dev forums I regularly see confusion and surprise
> > about this restriction.
> >
> > The only other platform (beside the Blackberry) which really
> limitsbluetoothis the iPhone, but this is expected of Apple.
> >
> > I am being dismissive about the security advantages of the blackberry
> > approach for these reasons:
> >
> > - The majority of phones available now (in Europe but not in the US)
> > allow full access to JSR82, without requiring pairing, and without
> > even requiring that the midlet be signed.
> >
> > - More importantly, I've not encountered any regret about this, or any
> > sense that it is a mistake.  Instead, easy access to JSR82 is
> > spreading: now, even LG and Samsung are starting to provide this.
> >
> > - Security concerns like this should not be addressed by limiting the
> > functionality of the system, when they can be addressed at the
> > application security level.  I can't comment on the difficulty of
> > implementing this, but certainly it would be better to produce an OS
> > that is not limited in the way that the BB and iPhone are.
> >
> > If you really believe thatbluetoothcommunication without pairing is
> > a security hole - and I believe that Nokia and SE have shown that it
> > isn't - then I think it would be better handled by the application
> > level security mechanisms.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Tom.
> >
> > On Dec 3, 12:22 pm, Nick Pelly <npe...@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > > We are likely to preventBluetoothdata connections (RFCOMM) from apps
> > > unless the two phones have been paired. It's really hard to make
> > > security work any other way.
> >
> > > Nick
> > > Android Systems Engineer
> >
> > > On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 1:37 AM, whitemice <markbr...@zedray.co.uk>
> wrote:
> >
> > > > Hi Nick
> > > > While we are on the subject, I am looking for Android *Ad-hoc*
> > > >Bluetoothsupport.
> >
> > > > Example: Alice and Bob both have my client running on their phones,
> > > > and walk withinBluetoothrange of each other in a social setting.  I
> > > > want the application to:
> > > > (a) Be able to detect the otherBluetoothphone in the room
> > > > (b) Detect that the same application is running on the other phone
> > > > (c) Create a data connection between the two phones without asking
> for
> > > > the user's permission (permission is granted beforehand).
> >
> > > > Is this considered a security problem, or will this kind of thing be
> > > > allowed in the new API?
> >
> > > > Some more info on what I am doing….
> > > >http://blog.zedray.com/snowball/
> >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Mark
> >
>

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