I think i put my analogy up here wrong. It would be like getting puled over by a cop but the speed limit sign says to stay within the limits of the written rules, the rules are not clear on what the speed limit is and where the line is drawn between going over it and under it, and if you do get pulled over, you just get a fine and a notice mailed to you saying that you broke a driving law in your country and that you should review the driving laws with no notice of whether or not you were going too fast, too slow, swerving in the road or what. If you were told exactly what you did then at least you have something to start with.
Google doesn't have any way to appeal the suspension, has no way to find out what they did not like in your app, and has no one to talk to. They don't even respond to email inquiries about it. Its a communistic system they built so they don't have to deal with the problems. I understand what you all are saying, in technicalities some of it is right, some of it I don't agree with, but whatever. Yes, I had part of a copyrighted image, but so do hundreds of other paid apps. Does that make it right for me to use it? no. BUT when so many others are getting away with it, I can't see that this was the issue. The same argument with the name. Regardless, this whole situation helped me see a certain type of app missing from the market. I'm going to retool what I have again, remove any existing app name from the title and make something new, something that isn't out there in the market. On Dec 9, 10:18 pm, TreKing <treking...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Bryan Stinchfield <bryed...@gmail.com>wrote: > > > You're an asshole and missing the point of the topic. > > Well that's not nice. I took quite some time out of my day to read your > rather long tantrum and responded to every question and point you made. I'm > sorry if my particular brand of humor offended you. But don't call me an > asshole - I'm sensitive and that really hurt my feelings :'( > > But you're obviously upset about your app so I'll chalk it up to anger and > forgive you. I'm big like that, yo. > > If my app is getting pulled then why aren't the hundreds of others. > > > Equality is all > > I'm talking about. How many "unofficial guides" are relased every year > > in the USA and not pulled? What if the application was about aviary > > birds that get upset over things and they used angry and birds int he > > title? Would they not be allowed to use it? There is a free app, angry > > birds walkthrough, 2 of them infact, neither has been pulled. Nor have > > the other 50+ walkthrough apps for angry birds, all using angry birds > > in their title. It would be a fair argument is no other app could have > > angry birds in the title, but this isn't the case. > > Did you even read my response or did you just jump to the "you're an > asshole" conclusion? > I'll repeat it for you: > > *Dude, there are A LOT of Angry Birds coat-tail riders, but there's limited > resources to curtail them, so they go for the big boys first - like the one > sitting cozy in 4th place.* > * > * > The Android Market has no up front review, so there's going to be a lot of > people violating the terms - they'll never all get caught at once. > Again, just because there are other people doing the wrong thing does not > give you the right to also do the wrong thing, nor to bitch when you get > caught and are facing the consequences for doing the wrong thing. > > > If you go look at > > my app on appbrain you'll see that I copied NOTHING from the angry > > birds app > > ... except the title ... and the names of the Angry Birds levels ... and > the very recognizable "red bird" image for your icon ... which you already > admitted. Dude, are you delirious? > > > , don't accuse me of copyright infringement when it didn't happen. > > *You* said: "The only other infraction I see is one that hundreds of > other developers > did, they used artwork from the app." *You* admitted to using copyrighted > artwork from the app. But copyright infringement didn't happen? Why? > Because others were doing it too? Will you share whatever you're smoking > please!? > > if you search angry birds you'll see hundreds of results, its > > > a moot point that my app has angry birds in the title when so many > > others are using it as well. > > No, the moot point is that other apps have the words in their titles when > you do as well. *Your* concern should be with *your* responsibility to > uphold the contract you agreed to when you signed up for the Android > Market. Don't worry about what others are doing, as frustrating as it may > be that they seem to be "getting away with it". You were coasting just fine > and look at you now. They'll get their turn in due time too, probably. > > The reason of pointing out what other people are doing is simply that > > > their apps are not suspended and mine is. If mine was suspended then > > why are their still up? > > For the third time now (and you say *I'm* missing the point?) > > *Dude, there are A LOT of Angry Birds coat-tail riders, but there's limited > resources to curtail them, so they go for the big boys first - like the one > sitting cozy in 4th place.* > > > If there is a speed trap and they are pulling > > over people who are causing infractions and an infraction is anything > > above the speed limit then why would someone doing 1mph over the limit > > get pulled over while others who are going 20 miles over the speed > > limit are not? > > Easy: because there's probably only one cop at the speed trap and he has to > pick his battles and it's easier to catch the numbnut that's going slower > than everyone else but still breaking the law thinking it's OK because > there's a bunch of other dicks doing it. (I bet you regret asking that > question now). > > How many cars do you suppose your fictitious super-cop can pull over at a > time? OK, now ask how many of the probably thousands of apps in the Market > that violate the terms can Google reasonably review and ban if necessary? > Let that percolate for a second. > > Everyone did somethign wrong but some people more than others and they get > > > away with it. > > Not *everyone*. Most of us here have not done anything wrong. A small chunk > of developers freeloading off of Angry Bird's success did something wrong. > You were one of them and, since you got janked, now you're pissed because > others doing the same thing aren't being taken down too? Dude, come on. > > > Please, don't bother responding, I could care less what you think. > > Looking for help, not an asshole. > > Shit, again, I really should read the whole message before I start posting. > Oh well, you already think I'm an asshole, so this can't hurt. > > Dude, I tried to answer the questions you had and I tried to illustrate to > you why your perspective is slightly skewed. If you want to dismiss me as > an asshole because I didn't take your side and you can't take a little > ribbing, that's up to you. > > You came here for help? Well, frankly, you're not getting any. No one from > Google is going to comment on your matter and there's nothing other > developers can do for you, so, sorry. All you can do at this point is clean > up your app, review the TOS to make sure you're in the clear, consult a > lawyer if you are in doubt, try again, and stop crying about others doing > the same thing apparently getting away with it. C'est la vie, mon amie. > > Good luck. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------------- > TreKing <http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking> - Chicago > transit tracking app for Android-powered devices -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
