Well, if you work with a SE embedded in a SIM card, if you change your
phone you just have to change the SIM that is all.

When working with NFC using the SIM approach you have basically two
options. On one hand you can create applications that communicate directly
with SIM to carry out operations with the embedded SE, i.e. recharging the
balance of a transportation ticket or just finding out the current balance.
>From my experience this approach works well for Blackberry or any other
J2ME phone supporting SATSA-APDU API. Android is just another different
world, since such low level access to SIM is not allowed from user
applications. In this case main processor and baseband firmware must be
changed to support a similar functionality already found on
several-year-old J2ME phones. This technique has not acquired much market
adotion.
On the other hand we have the TSM operation. In this case the carriers, who
control de SIM and have other means to access remotely to the SIM (OTA),
set up TSM services a provide third parties (transportation companies such
as RENFE, etc.) a access to SIM (well, actually to a part inside the SE
that holds that third party's own applications). In this case the user
applications inside the mobile phone do not have direct access to SIM, but
they operate with it through a business service that usually proxies to
carrier's TSM server.





On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 1:14 PM, jesquinas <jesqui...@renfe.es> wrote:

> I work at RENFE,the national railways company.We have developping NFC
> projects.Here,in Spain,the main NFC model is SIM-centric.There are
> only a few NFC models available.Our project is developed with Vodafone
> and all our mobiles are with a NFC SIM.The main argument who mobile
> operators say is that you change more the mobile that the SIM and that
> the reason for adopting the SIM centric model.The question that the
> mobile operators say in Spain is : if you have your credentials in the
> SE in the phone and you want to change the phone ,for example fro
> Google Nexus to Blackberry,how can you do it?????
>
> Can you give me arguments for knowing more about this subject?
>
> Thanks.
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