Android also supports loooooooong-click, which is what you need.
(see the Notepad example).

Peli
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On Jan 28, 5:29 pm, Andriy Zakharchuk <andriy.zakharc...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I have a question about touch mode (probably it was already asked,
> sorry if so, but I couldn't find a discussion like this). It's not
> about technical issues, everything more or less is clear here, it's
> more about philosophy. Hope Romain Guy will have chance to look into
> this.
>
> The simple task I'm working on is a CRUD application. I have several
> entities stored in a database. Lets say users and groups. I have to
> provide basic set of operations to a user: create, retrieve, update
> and delete entity (CRUD).
>
> Using usual approach I would create two forms for each entity list and
> form. List displays all records from the database and has commands
> (menu items, toolbar buttons or whatever else) to add, edit, delete
> records. Add command displays form to let user fill-in fields and add
> new record. Edit command displays form with attributes of currently
> selected record. Delete command removes currently selected record from
> the database. Pretty common, eh?
>
> Android applications offer another model. We have three screens. I
> call them: list, view and form. In Contacts application:
> - list - is a list of contacts;
> - view - is a screen with information and dial number/send sms
> command;
> - form - is a form for editing information about the contact.
>
> How CRUD commands are distributed (I don't consider other commands
> like dial, send SMS).
>
> - list has only Add command in menu (and all possible commands in
> context menu).
> - view has Edit and Delete commands in menu,
> - form is similar to the approach above.
>
> There is one thing that confuses me here. In the Contacts application
> this approach looks perfect. Usually we have contacts with a number of
> phone numbers assigned, so view screen is quite functional.
>
> But lets imagine that we need to work with an entity that has only one
> attribute, e.g. 'users group' has only 'name' attribute. In this case
> view screen is always almost empty, only group name is displayed in
> the screen header (contact with only name filled looks very similar,
> although you still have favourite flag set/unset action). Since I
> don't have other actions to be performed on gorup, the only function
> of this screen is to have edit and delete commands in options menu.
> This seems confusing to me.
>
> I tried to implement it in a traditional way (the approach I described
> first). So I created a list screen, put 'Add', 'Edit', 'Delete'
> commands into menu. I couldn't get Edit and Delete menu commands
> working in touch mode, because I couldn't obtain selected item.
>
> In case when click on a list item moves user to the form, Edit/Delete
> commands are not needed in the options menu (in touch mode), entering
> edit mode is implemented via click, but deletion is not possible.
>
> The only solution I see here:
> - list screen options menu has only Add command;
> - click on a list item is equal to the Edit command;
> - Delete command is available only from the form screen (you can Save,
> Discard or Delete).
>
> Yeah, it is Palm OS approach :) Using this approach I make my
> application inconsistent with other Android applications.
>
> With Android approach I get almost empty almost non-functional view
> screen, which makes me think that I'm doing something wrong.
>
> Any ideas on this?
>
> Thank you in advance.
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