Correct. The user needs to be involved in installing apps by confirming it in the UI (you can invoke this UI if you want). In cupcake you can load arbitrary Dalvik code in to your process, though you need to be aware that the code will be running as your own app.
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 7:06 PM, tiwana <tiwana.birj...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I am sorry i am not sure if i get it . So are you tryin to say that > one third party app would not be able to install another > app which will run as a separate app but it can add classes to the > existing process.... > > On Apr 14, 8:39 pm, Dianne Hackborn <hack...@android.com> wrote: > > This is exactly as I have already said: this API is not available to > third > > party apps, and cupcake will not change this. Addressing the original > > poster, there is a new API in cupcake to be able to dynamically load > classes > > with Dalvik. > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 1:13 AM, tiwana <tiwana.birj...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > So i downloaded the system images of cupcake for my emulator , my > > > emulator shows that it is now upgraded to version 1.5 ,i wrote an app > > > which can install other apps, gave this app INSTLL_PACKAGES permission > > > and installed this app in normal /data/app folder. But still when i > > > run this app i get the exception that INSTALL_PACKAGES cannot be > > > granted. i go to settings and see my app does not have this > > > permission. Is this because the system images available on net are not > > > fully developed? > > > > > On Apr 14, 12:01 am, zhoubo shi <zhoubo....@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I think we should not write anything to the system folder. > > > > > > 2009/4/14 Dianne Hackborn <hack...@android.com> > > > > > > > Nothing has been announced yet. > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 1:37 PM, tiwana <tiwana.birj...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > >> So when will be the cupcake available? > > > > > > >> On Apr 9, 7:06 pm, Dianne Hackborn <hack...@android.com> wrote: > > > > >> > That's why apps can't install other apps without the user being > > > > >> involved. I > > > > >> > was addressing the first part of the original poster's request, > > > being > > > > >> able > > > > >> > to download and run Dalvik code in your own process. In that > case > > > the > > > > >> new > > > > >> > API will let you do this, though of course you are running the > other > > > > >> code as > > > > >> > -yourself- so taking responsibility for anything it does. > > > > > > >> > On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 3:35 PM, BIRJODH < > birjodh.tiw...@gmail.com> > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > >> > > Would not it be somewhat dangerous to allow apps is /data/app > > > folder > > > > >> > > to install other applications?? An app can just create an > infinite > > > > >> > > loop in which downloads applications which do not require any > > > > >> > > permission and keep on installing them and fill out the memory > > > space? > > > > > > >> > > Birjodh > > > > > > >> > > On Apr 9, 1:56 pm, Dianne Hackborn <hack...@android.com> > wrote: > > > > >> > > > There is an API in cupcake to allow you to perform the > dexopt > > > into > > > > >> your > > > > >> > > own > > > > >> > > > directory. That will be available when cupcake is > available. > > > > > > >> > > > On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 2:05 AM, Eborix13 < > ebori...@yahoo.com> > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > Hi, > > > > > > >> > > > > We are a team of Android developers and we are facing a > > > serious > > > > >> > > > > problem for quite some time. Our app (a game client) is > > > designed > > > > >> in > > > > >> > > > > such a way, that once it's installed it can be used to > > > download > > > > >> games > > > > >> > > > > from a game server. In order for the downloaded games to > work, > > > > >> they > > > > >> > > > > have to be installed and launched by the client. > > > > > > >> > > > > The problem is that the client has no write/update rights > for > > > the > > > > >> / > > > > >> > > > > data/dalvik-cache directory, unless we specifically > execute > > > the > > > > >> chmod > > > > >> > > > > 777 command for that directory. Setting the > > > > >> > > > > android.permission.INSTALL_PACKAGES permission in the > client's > > > > >> > > > > manifest file also doesn't work. After reading countless > > > forums > > > > >> where > > > > >> > > > > other people have complained about the same problem, we > would > > > like > > > > >> to > > > > >> > > > > know when this issue is going to be resolved. Apparently > the > > > code > > > > >> for > > > > >> > > > > this feature already exists (the DexFile class of the so > > > called > > > > >> > > > > "cupcake" release) but it hasn't been released yet. > > > > > > >> > > > > What's more frustrating is that the Android team points > out > > > that > > > > >> all > > > > >> > > > > Android apps are equal, that system apps are equal in > rights > > > to > > > > >> custom > > > > >> > > > > apps. Obviously this is not the case. If the client game > app > > > is > > > > >> > > > > installed in the /system/app the problem described above > is > > > > >> solved. > > > > >> > > > > System apps have the right to dynamically install other > apps. > > > > >> Regular > > > > >> > > > > apps (installed in the /data/data folder) do not. > > > > > > >> > > > > Is this issue going to be resolved anytime soon? Will the > > > > >> "cupcake" > > > > >> > > > > DexFile class going to be present in the next release? > This is > > > a > > > > >> > > > > rather urgent problem since we are waiting for this new > > > > >> functionality > > > > >> > > > > in order to continue development. > > > > > > >> > > > > Thank you... > > > > > > >> > > > -- > > > > >> > > > Dianne Hackborn > > > > >> > > > Android framework engineer > > > > >> > > > hack...@android.com > > > > > > >> > > > Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't > have > > > > >> time to > > > > >> > > > provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. > > > All > > > > >> such > > > > >> > > > questions should be posted on public forums, where I and > others > > > can > > > > >> see > > > > >> > > and > > > > >> > > > answer them. > > > > > > >> > -- > > > > >> > Dianne Hackborn > > > > >> > Android framework engineer > > > > >> > hack...@android.com > > > > > > >> > Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have > > > time to > > > > >> > provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. > All > > > such > > > > >> > questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others > can > > > see > > > > >> and > > > > >> > answer them. > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Dianne Hackborn > > > > > Android framework engineer > > > > > hack...@android.com > > > > > > > Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have > time > > > to > > > > > provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. 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