Not sure what you mean Fred, can you elaborate?

On Nov 9, 8:45 am, "Fred Grott(Android Expert, 
http://mobilebytes.wordpress.com)"
<fred.gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ah that is suppose to be that way use setprops via adb
>
> On Nov 9, 9:20 am, "nEx.Software" <email.nex.softw...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Another reason I don't beleive the CLIQ is a good development device:
> > The CLIQ does not output Log.v() or Log.d() level logging via LogCat.
>
> > On Nov 9, 4:39 am, jarkman <jark...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Dianne - we have a couple of problems on the CLIQ.
>
> > > In both cases, the APIs are technically working correctly, but the
> > > resulting user experience is unfortunate, so these may not be exactly
> > > what you are asking for. But, in case you are interested:
>
> > > (1) The CLIQ has a lot of contact data (from facebook and so on) that
> > > is not visible through the Contact APIs. From our user's point of
> > > view, that results in contacts who simply do not appear in our UI or
> > > in contacts with phone numbers that we can't see. They see that
> > > experience as broken.
>
> > > We have no workaround for that, apart from hoping that that the CLIQ
> > > moves rapidly to 2.0.
>
> > > (2) The CLIQ has no LED colour control, so our LED-colour
> > > configuration UI appears broken to our users. The docs do say that LED
> > > colour support is optional, but without an API to query for colour
> > > support we can't take the UI away automatically.
>
> > > We're fixing that with a special-case CLIQ detector, but that is
> > > obviously not a good solution in a amrket with a lot of new phones
> > > appearing.
>
> > > Thanks,
>
> > > Richard
>
> > > On Nov 7, 9:00 pm, Dianne Hackborn <hack...@android.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Can you give more detail?  The APIs should work the same.  If there are
> > > > changes, we'd really like to know.
>
> > > > On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 10:51 AM, nEx.Software
> > > > <email.nex.softw...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > > > > The CLIQ is not representative of a normal Android experience. It is
> > > > > buggy, half of the components have been replaced by Motorola. They use
> > > > > their own variants of some APIs.
>
> > > > > And, I certainly would not recommend it as a user device, personally.
> > > > > As a user of the CLIQ I have been very, very disappointed.
>
> > > > > So, if you really want just a testing device I would choose something
> > > > > the is not as heavily modified. If you also want to use it as your
> > > > > actual phone, I would choose something less glitchy and more flexible.
>
> > > > > On Nov 7, 11:10 am, Dianne Hackborn <hack...@android.com> wrote:
> > > > > > On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 8:33 PM, nEx.Software
> > > > > > <email.nex.softw...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > > > > > > The CLIQ has 1.5 loaded, and it is NOT a good development phone. 
> > > > > > > Trust
> > > > > > > me.
>
> > > > > > What is wrong with it?  Fwiw, one of our goals is that all Android
> > > > > > compatible phones should also allow for the full standard 
> > > > > > development
> > > > > > environment.
>
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Dianne Hackborn
> > > > > > Android framework engineer
> > > > > > hack...@android.com
>
> > > > > > Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have 
> > > > > > time to
> > > > > > provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails.  All 
> > > > > > such
> > > > > > questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can 
> > > > > > see
> > > > > and
> > > > > > answer them.
>
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> > > > --
> > > > Dianne Hackborn
> > > > Android framework engineer
> > > > hack...@android.com
>
> > > > Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to
> > > > provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails.  All such
> > > > questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see 
> > > > and
> > > > answer them.
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