Alex, can you please clarify something for us? > Today we did check of our sales. And found interesting aspects: > 1) 4% of people that install pirated copy after "black list" > discussions and news over internet decide to buy application;
How are you getting this number -- from your technical support it appears; "How to track piracy ? It's simple: difference between activations and sales give you a number of pirated copies." Source: http://www.artfulbits.com/Support/forum.aspx?g=posts&t=23 Just wondering where the "4%" is coming from, or if it's just that a few copies where sold. Or maybe someone emailed you wondering why their rapidshare'ed apk wasn't working? Also, I never actually got a response to my email on this thread... It's somewhere on the first page, maybe post 18 or 19. Anyway, I ask why you aren't just using the ANDROID_ID? It's obtainable without using any extra permissions, does not entail the same (though it could be argued) privacy concerns, and it still links you to a specific device? I've looked through your documentation and your FAQ and haven't really found any reason as to exactly why your using the IMEI over the ANDROID_ID? *Yes*, you could spoof the ANDROID_ID, but it's also just a easily done to crack the application/remove the check, or even spoof the IMEI. Last, I'm wondering exactly how this pans out for how the purchasing of the application works with Google Market and your protection system. Currently the purchase is linked to my Google Checkout account - NOT my device. This means when I transferred from my G1 to myTouch I didn't lose any applications I've purchased. With your protection system along with the way you "count" the piracy, aren't your going to wrongly find "pirates" among real customers? Just for example... If I've bought your products, transfer phones and sell my phone. Whoever buys my phone is correct under your protection system in using the application since it's linked to the device. Though when I fire up the market on my new device using the same account, it will allow me to download the applications I've previously paid for. Though your protection mechanism is going to label me a pirate and mark my IMEI. Do you guys handle this situation any specific way? --Tim Strazzere On Nov 30, 12:11 pm, AlexK <kucherenko.a...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Today we did check of our sales. And found interesting aspects: > 1) 4% of people that install pirated copy after "black list" > discussions and news over internet decide to buy application; > > This is really good news! > > 2) after changing protection and converting old versions into "honey > pots" we catch 10-15 users per day that still trying to activate > pirated version of the product. Quite interesting that those user > simply don't want to search over web and find manufacture web page or > alternative to Android Market. They prefer to download copy from > rapidshare (or something similar) and install it. > > 3) Russian file exchange servers have the most problematic support. > After we ask to close illegal content, they continue to ignore us... > and after one week and tones of e-mails they decide to stop content > sharing... > > 4) We decide to make open source library for other developers that > will provide advanced licensing technology for everyone who wants it. > We hope our efforts will help vendors to protect own investments. > > Thanks, > Good Luck > > On Nov 16, 1:12 pm, AlexK <kucherenko.a...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Our company starts todayanti-piracyinitiative against piracy that > > already happened on Android Market. We request all vendors and > > developers to support this initiative. > > > Piracy become a threat for vendors that publishing application on > > Android Market! It is not a joke, it is a real threat. > > > Our last application publishing shows how bad is situation on the > > Android Market. Only 20% of all installs are legal, other 80% are in > > piracy hands. > > > Google does not provide any actions to stop piracy, so we as a vendor > > that provide software for Android Market, have to think about > > protection measures. Piracy is threat that cannot be target easily and > > eliminated in one day. Only join of all vendors can help inanti-piracy. > > > ArtfulBits company decide to start from today "AndroidAnti-piracy > > Movement" with main goal: "protect vendors and punish piracy". > > > Our next steps are: > > - Petition to Google with request to provide betteranti-piracy > > protocols for Android Market; > > - Collective anti-Google charge, from side of vendors that loose money > > due to Google "security holes" in Android Market application > > distribution channel; > > - Public web service "Black List", that helps all developer to check > > is there application installed on pirate phone; > > - Joining of the software vendors over that problem for finding > > betteranti-piracystrategies; > > - Identification of the roots of piracy, that make possible Android > > Market software leaking and contribution them to justice. > > > A little later today we will open "black-list" database of devices, > > where was installed stolen version of applications. In addition, we > > will provide "easy code" for all developers that can be integrated > > into own application and during first start, check is phone in "black > > list" or not. > > > OpenedAnti-Piracyforum thread:http://www.artfulbits.com/Support > > Petition can be signed > > here:http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/androidpiracy > > > Stay tuned! Thanks. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
