Personally, I think the last part of this conversation is much ado about nothing. Nick was the original registrar, and original architect of the illegal business, and the public information shows that connection and that is all. "Covering your tracks" after a crime is something best left to the criminal, and there's really no need to have public debate about whether it's okay for people to re-disclose public information, whether it makes others nervous or not; of course its okay.
And Nick, nobody has "dragged you back into this." It appears you have simply not completely taken yourself out in the first place. *About the site*: they are pirates. They plan to release an app to the market soon that will let their customers download your apps for free (after paying them, of course). They have done several waves of advertising via Market comments on all the apps they have purchased (in fact, it was a comment by Nick on our app that first brought my attention to their site, late last year). Consequently, you can't really tell if they carry your app, because the catalog visible to non-users does not show all of their downloads. For example, they carry our product right now, but it is not in the public catalog. Nonetheless, many users have notified us that they found our product there. However, if you cannot find your app in the public list, I encourage you to forget it for now and NOT pay them for a membership. I believe they have already made many thousands in ill-gotten gains. Finally, I think there are only two solutions to this and the many other pirate sites: (1) Protect your app with some license scheme. (2) Launch a campaign to take down the site. This will have to be done via a lawsuit. Google is unlikely to do anything about this because it's not their fight, and it doesn't harm them in any way. Cheers! SoftwareForMe.com On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Al Sutton <a...@funkyandroid.com> wrote: > There is no law which covers reproducing information in the public > domain (such as whois records). > > You should contact the registrar (GoDaddy), inform them the > information is wrong and they're publishing your personal information, > and ask for the domain to be taken down as it's incorrectly > registered. > > Better still, as whomever is involved in it has listed you as the > admin and tech contacts you could ask GoDaddy to transfer the domain > to your control, then point it at a domain parking page. That way you > could get money from the parking page and the site would become a non- > issue for everyone here and so they'd stop hassling you. > > Have a nice day, > > Al. > > On Apr 9, 1:23 am, "Guess Who, You Probably have my Number" > <nnarb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I will say this one more time. DO NOT own this site or am I > > affiliated with it. I f I see anybody else freely placing my personal > > information on a forum,etc. I will have my lawyer personally contact > > you. As this is a violation of more than one law, regardless of my > > past, this is wrong. It was sold to a guy out of Sweden. What he did > > or does with it is out of my control. > > Please remove my contact info. > > > > On Apr 8, 8:07 pm, Bob Kerns <r...@acm.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Well, if my paid app shows up there, I'll be contacting their ISP, > > > domain registrar, and local authorities. I encourage anyone similarly > > > being ripped off to do the same. > > > > > I'm only doing it if my app shows up there, because then I'll have the > > > evidence and the legal standing for a complaint. > > > > > They appear to be located in Florida, so this should fall under the > > > DCMA, which is a lousy law, but at least should work OK; this sort of > > > thing has always been illegal. > > > > > If someone's feeling adventurous, they can email and/or call and see > > > what they have to say for themselves. It's still possible we're > > > jumping to conclusions. > > > > > Registrant: > > > Private > > > 9306 new heritage rd apt 302 > > > orlando, Florida 32825 > > > United States > > > > > Domain Name: ANDROIDPLAYGROUND.NET > > > Created on: 10-Sep-09 > > > Expires on: 10-Sep-11 > > > Last Updated on: 26-Jan-10 > > > > > Administrative Contact: > > > narbone, nicholas > > > 9306 new heritage rd apt 302 > > > orlando, Florida 32825 > > > United States > > > +1.4073348336 Fax -- > > > > > Technical Contact: > > > narbone, nicholas > > > 9306 new heritage rd apt 302 > > > orlando, Florida 32825 > > > United States > > > +1.4073348336 Fax -- > > > > > Domain servers in listed order: > > > NS1.ANDROIDPLAYGROUND.NET > > > NS2.ANDROIDPLAYGROUND.NET > > > > > On Apr 8, 8:59 am, nexbug <gsuku...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Basically you can get a subscription to their site for a nominal fee > > > > and they will give you access to pirated android apps. The same apps > > > > that you publish for a fee, the seem to download them from the market > > > > by paying you once and distribute to their paid users for free. Nice > > > > business model. I think Google has been notified of these guys a > > > > hundred times, but i dont think anyone cares, assuming that these > > > > folks may not be making a dent big enough to justify any action. > > > > I guess this is the flipside of playing on an open platform.. focus > on > > > > building a better product and worry less about the bottom-feeders. > > > > > > -g > > > > > > On Apr 8, 8:43 am, Michael MacDonald <googlec...@antlersoft.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > On 04/08/10 08:23, Bob Kerns wrote:> HOWEVER -- as a developer, I > can find no way to list my paid app on > > > > > > their site. This makes me very suspicious. Are the developers > getting > > > > > > paid, or are these pirates? > > > > > > > 100% pirates > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Android Developers" group. > To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<android-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en > > To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
