OT:
Hmm...I guess sending mom a chocolate covered HTC Incredible for Mothers Day
is out of the question now.  Thanks for the warning Kevin! :)



On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Kevin Gaudin <kevin.gau...@gmail.com>wrote:

> My HTC Magic has been slowly losing it's touch-screen sensitivity
> after an accidental... chocolate absorbtion.
>
> Now, having been forced to use an 1.6 android phone with only D-Pad, I
> can assure you that there are some issues :
> - The PIN input can't be used without a touch screen : the digits
> never get focus with D-Pad. I had to disable the PIN from my SIM in
> another phone in order to be able to use my phone
> - Text input is impossible without a touch screen (and a physical
> keyboard)
> - Then, for some chocolate-related reasons, I had to wipe users
> data... and I figured out that the lovely droid which invite us to
> touch him to start using the system can't be bypassed
>
> Except these points, and before the latest one, I was still able to
> use the Home screen, launch apps, and really use some of them for read-
> only purposes...
>
> Kevin
>
>
> On Apr 23, 4:04 pm, Zigurd <zigurd.medni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > OK, I see the Alessi counter-top Android TV has touchhttp://
> www.engadget.com/2010/04/23/alessitab-android-touchscreen-for-...
> > And, yes, I can see that non-touch UI probably needs an update from
> > the AWT-ish original support in Android, if it is to be as good as
> > possible for big TVs and such.
> >
> > On Apr 21, 4:29 pm, Dianne Hackborn <hack...@android.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > I can more strongly say that today, to be able to ship an Android
> compatible
> > > phone (and thus have Market), you need to have a touch screen.
> >
> > > If/when at some point in the future devices without touch-screens are
> > > considered to be Android compatible, appropriate work for existing
> third
> > > party applications will be done, as we have done in the past: either
> having
> > > some kind of compatibility so that they can still run with a decent
> > > experience (as was done with the new density support), or applying
> filtering
> > > so that those applications will not be visible to users until
> specifically
> > > updated to support the new kind of device (as was done for example for
> > > devices with smaller screens).
> >
> > > While making your app work well with a DPAD is nice, I don't recommend
> > > developers go out of their way today to try to make a touch-oriented UI
> work
> > > without a touch screen.  That time would be better spent on improving
> the
> > > touch experience.
> >
> > > On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Zigurd <zigurd.medni...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > All current Android phones have touch-screens.
> >
> > > > However, Android's UI is designed to be operated using the d-pad,
> > > > moving a "focus" and using a select button as well as by touch. I
> > > > think all the standard apps that are part of most Android phones can
> > > > work without touch.
> >
> > > > If, for example, you consider an Android in-car system with steering
> > > > wheel buttons, or an Android TV as possible target platforms, you
> > > > would want your apps to function without touch, too, and should
> > > > include non-touch test cases in your test plan.
> >
> > > > On Apr 21, 6:06 am, Sean Hodges <seanhodge...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > > > If you are a beginner, you should really be posting to the
> > > > > android-beginners list.
> >
> > > > > I believe all of the current Android phones have touch screens.
> >
> > > > > On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:24 AM, angushir...@googlemail.com
> >
> > > > > <angushir...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > >        a simple question from a beginner - how many of Android
> phones
> > > > > > support touchscreen applications?
> >
> > > > > > Angus
> >
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