2008/4/7 Dan Morrill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On this forum, please avoid quoting people (including me) out of context
> for your own agenda.  I said quite clearly that Sanjay Jha does not speak
> for Google, and that his comments *pertaining to Google's motivations* are
> his own opinion.  He may or may not have been speaking for his own company,
> I don't know.


Dan, where have I quoted anyone "out of context"? You really need to avoid
falling back on cheap tactics like this, and like your previous
name-calling, when you don't have anything substantive to say in response.
The story I cited is available for anyone to
read<http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04/03/android_qualcomm/>;
they can draw their own conclusions about it. I didn't leave a bit of
"context" out, and I'd love to see you demonstrate otherwise.

If you're going to accuse me of quoting out of context, however, I think
it's incumbent on you to *provide *the context you feel I've left out. Or
you could always apologize to me. Again.


> I'm not going to address your conspiracy theory about the Alliance,
> because it's just silly.


Well, maybe you can explain to me why there seems to be no particular
evidence of an actual "Open Handset Alliance" beyond the initial
announcement of its existence. Am I incorrect about the license agreement on
the SDK...? Or the ownership of the domain...? Or the copyright notices...?

What conclusion do you *want *me to draw, Dan?

Does the Open Handset Alliance have offices? Or a board of directors? Who
runs it? Where's it located? I'd be very interested to hear I'm mistaken
about any of this, but I don't think I am.

The Linux Foundation has offices, officers and a board of directors. As does
the Linux Phone Standards Forum. As does the LiMo Foundation. As does the
Open Media Now! Foundation. As does the GNOME Foundation. I could go on
citing examples, but you get the point.

What's the governance model of the Open Handset Alliance? I'd be all kinds
of interested in hearing the details....

Or you could always just call me a "troll" again, instead, I suppose.

2008/4/7 Stone Mirror <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 1:18 AM, ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Cary Harper wrote:
> > > > We applied several months ago and never heard back.  I hope you have
> > > better
> > > > luck than we did.
> > >
> > > I've emailed a half dozen times now and have never had any kind of
> > > response. We supply semiconductor IP that's used in lots of TI, Intel,
> > > etc. devices so you'd have thought the OHA would welcome us with open
> > > arms rather than the cold shoulder.
> > >
> > > If anyone knows of any other email contacts for the OHA or Google
> > > people involved with Android, then please let me know.
> >
> >
> > There's little evidence, beyond the initial press release from last
> > year, that the "Open Handset Alliance" even *exists.*
> >
> > The license agreement for the SDK isn't between you and the OHA, it's
> > between you and Google. The domain "openhandsetalliance.org" isn't owned
> > by the Open Handset Alliance, it's owned by Google. None of the code that's
> > been released so far, what little there is, contains an "Open Handset
> > Alliance" copyright; it's all been copyrighted by Google.
> >
> > I commented a day or two ago on the story in The Register where Sanjay
> > Jha, COO of Qualcomm's chipset division, was quoted as saying that it was
> > Google's goal to create fragmentation by introducing Android to ensure that
> > only web-based applications (which Google specializes in, not mobile device
> > operating systems) would be able to gain any sort of foothold in the global
> > market.
> >
> > Dan Morill very quickly informed us that Mr. Jha "doesn't work for *Google",
> > *and that his statement should therefore be treated as uninformed
> > personal opinion. Seems odd to me, given that Qualcomm is certainly a member
> > of the "Open Handset Alliance"; you think they'd be in a better position to
> > know what the motivation behind Android was. Dan makes it sound as though no
> > one outside of Google has anything to say regarding Android.
> >
> > Steve Ballmer said, early on, that Android was "just a press release".
> > Clearly there's a bit more to it than that, but I'm coming to believe that
> > the *Open Handset Alliance *may be "just a press release".
> >
> > --
> > 鏡石
> >
> >
> >
>
> >
>


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