On the plus side, it looks as though T-Mobile isn't locking the ability to
install apps. We may have to some wiggle room to avoid T-Mobile market place
altogether, which isn't available to us anyway, so no loss there.

Shane

On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Shane Isbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> This is all part of the insiders club of mobile. We have a big T-Mobile
> launch on the 22nd and we find out that developer's can't stock their
> applications because they aren't tested on real devices, which only the
> insiders have. How exciting is that? I'm a big pessimist when it comes to
> mobile (it has served me well) and I didn't even see this coming.
> Shane
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Eric F <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>
>> I think this article brings up a lot of great points. Has T-mobile
>> confirmed that we'll be able to install applications on the phone?
>> There was a definite reference to a beta marketplace that might get
>> released eventually (although that it would be "free" for the first 90
>> days sounds a lot like even free apps won't be free after that). The
>> whole not free marketplace makes it sound a lot like they'll lock down
>> installation not through the marketplace.
>>
>> Also. Why bother mentioning in the G1 announcement that Android is
>> open source? Would it matter if the PlayStation 3's OS was open
>> source? No. You download the code, fix what you don't like. And
>> then.... what... run it in the emulator? I'm guessing I'm more likely
>> to win the lottery than that I'll be allowed to install custom OS
>> firmware on the G1. What does coding your own Android matter if you
>> have no device to install it on? Why even mention it in the G1 press
>> release. If people could put on their own firmware then the whole "No
>> tethering" is like telling someone they aren't allowed to drive your
>> car as you hand them the keys.
>>
>> Android is such a great idea. As a technology enthusiast it kicks my
>> imagination into overdrive about the possibilities. But even though
>> Google is so great at designing solid technology, in the back of my
>> head I know the carriers won't allow that to reach the consumer.
>>
>> And even if one company does, the Android brand as a whole will be
>> diluted to the point where nobody cares. Imagine if a certain revision
>> of the Motorola RAZR (say V2, or whatever) could have arbitrary apps
>> installed, synced all your stuff over the air, was amazing in every
>> way. Would we really care? The majority of RAZRs out there don't do
>> anything but make calls. Would we all be on ebay looking for someone
>> selling the RAZR V2? Probably not because we know the product will be
>> defunct soon.
>>
>> As a customer, I need to feel like investing in a platform is a safe
>> and future proof bet. I want to know that if I buy a handset, for the
>> 2 years I am stuck with it, I want to know that my handset will stay
>> current with the platform so that 1.5 years from that time when some
>> killer app comes out, that I can run it. And that in 2 years, when
>> there's a new phone with 4x the resolution and twice the speed, that I
>> can buy it and migrate my info and experience using the platform to
>> it.
>>
>> Android may have the above. But it has no guarantee of the above. And
>> that is the problem. To have confidence in a platform, you have to
>> have the guarantee. The only trustworthy company in the mix is Google
>> itself. And they aren't in control of what the consumer ends up
>> getting.
>>
>> On Sep 24, 7:57 am, kapare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > I though that this article could make googlers think about the
>> > standardization. I know that their is none, but only openness. But
>> > what if you blast a laser beam in only one direction (like Apple) vs
>> > Android that will blast a lot of energy doing everything. That article
>> > made me think about Linux and all is flavors and the fact that if they
>> > were working in synergy to build one great OS that os will be a lot
>> > better than Windows ?!?
>> >
>> > http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/09/what-google-mus.html
>> >>
>>
>

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