Sure that now that there is the "developer edition" of the G1, this is by
far the best option !

2008/12/7 Muthu Ramadoss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Hey Eric,
>
> Long time, what's happening? When's your device coming out?
>
> take care,
> Muthu Ramadoss.
>
> http://mobeegal.in - mobile search. redefined. +91 98403 48914
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>
>
> On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>
>> >#1 - This was probably been cut & pasted from the G1 literature without
>> any thought when the PR guys were told "we're going to release an
>> Android 'phone like the G1".
>>
>> This clearly shows that they have NOT idea what they are talking
>> about............typical chinese company behavior....
>> AND they hardware is nowhere near completion if they can't get their
>> spec correct!!!!
>>
>> >#2 - The formats may not be supported by existing Android
>> implementations, but if Kogans R&D guys have integrated a AV library
>> such as PacketCore and a player such as VLC then it's possible these
>> are
>> features which will be available on the Kogan 'phone, again this
>> doesn't
>> seem to be a fundamental blocker to it's existance.
>>
>> Our developer have been trying very hard to do EXACTLY this, so far no
>> success...........
>> Any pointers how we can implement do VLC type of codec support on
>> Android?
>>
>> >MicroSD supports upto 16GB
>> You need SDHC microSD to have 16GB, normal standard microSD card would
>> only go to 4GB.
>> If they didn't say it is SDHC compatible, it is safe to assume it
>> isn't.
>>
>> >#4 - Everyone knows that product release dates tend to slip, and my
>> guess is the PR department are trying to ride the Android buzz (and
>> they
>> seem to be doing a pretty good job of it at the moment), so again I
>> don't see the reason why the Kogan 'phone can't exist because of
>> this.
>>
>> Well, I didn't say it doesn't exist. I just believe that what they
>> have released publicly doesn't correspond to what they would deliver
>> in the end. Hence, I expect to see many complains to their incorrect
>> spec.
>>
>> Re: muthu
>> I agree that developers are safer to buy Google's developer edition of
>> G1 than Kogan's......
>>
>>
>> Eric
>> Portable Electronics Ltd
>> www.hdmp4.com
>>
>> On Dec 6, 8:32 pm, Al Sutton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Eric,
>> >
>> > #1 - This was probably been cut & pasted from the G1 literature without
>> > any thought when the PR guys were told "we're going to release an
>> > Android 'phone like the G1".
>> >
>> > #2 - The formats may not be supported by existing Android
>> > implementations, but if Kogans R&D guys have integrated a AV library
>> > such as PacketCore and a player such as VLC then it's possible these are
>> > features which will be available on the Kogan 'phone, again this doesn't
>> > seem to be a fundamental blocker to it's existance.
>> >
>> > #3 - My guess is this is another typo, it probably should be "256MB
>> > On-board RAM + 128MB Flash". The G1 only has 192MB of RAM, and 128MB is
>> > plausable for a boot image.  MicroSD supports upto 16GB and provides a
>> > reasonable speed for browsing photos & music, so why do you see this as
>> > a reason that the 'phone can't exist?
>> >
>> > #4 - Everyone knows that product release dates tend to slip, and my
>> > guess is the PR department are trying to ride the Android buzz (and they
>> > seem to be doing a pretty good job of it at the moment), so again I
>> > don't see the reason why the Kogan 'phone can't exist because of this.
>> >
>> > I still don't see how you can say the specification "is complete
>> > rubbish". So it's got a couple of typos, theres some tech that it
>> > possible but not yet available, and they've hit some shipping delays. I
>> > still beleive that the device could ship in Jan and we may see it
>> happen.
>> >
>> > Now if there's someone from Kogan listening maybe they could give some
>> > more definitive answers....
>> >
>> > Al.http://andappstore.com./
>> >
>> > Eric wrote:
>> > > Well, there are two main category that does sound correct to me.
>> >
>> > > 1st
>> > > Google Mobile Functions
>> > > Google Search ™, Gmail ™, YouTube ™, Google Maps ™, Google Talk ™,
>> > > Google Calendar ™.
>> >
>> > > There aren't any Gmail, Youtube, Gtalk nor Calendar apk that come
>> > > along with the SDK, so where do we get that from?
>> > > (I have been wondering for a long time how/where can we get these apk
>> > > to use on our Android device.......since they are not provided by
>> > > default.)
>> >
>> > > 2nd
>> > > Video formats supported:
>> > > MPEG2 H263, H264, MPEG4, AVI
>> >
>> > > I don't think Android support these formats by default either and
>> > > there aren't any video player included by default. So these aren't
>> > > exactly correct.
>> >
>> > > "Media Libraries - based on PacketVideo's OpenCORE; the libraries
>> > > support playback and recording of many popular audio and video
>> > > formats, as well as static image files, including MPEG4, H.264, MP3,
>> > > AAC, AMR, JPG, and PNG"
>> > >http://code.google.com/android/what-is-android.html
>> >
>> > > Last time I tried playing any video using a player build on Android's
>> > > media player, no video really plays except 3gp files. So, I don't know
>> > > exactly what MPEG4 or H.264 would Android work on......because all the
>> > > mpeg4 encoded avi doesn't seems to play nor files with mp4 extension.
>> >
>> > > 3rd
>> > > Memory
>> > > 256 MB On-board + 128 MB Flash
>> >
>> > > I just spotted another mistake.........is this 256MB ram + 128MB
>> > > flash? or 256MB flash + 128MB flash?  256MB flash + 128MB ram????
>> > > Either way, it is way too small since everyone knows we can't install
>> > > apk on SD cards yet!!! nor in the short to medium term...............
>> >
>> > > microSD™ card expansion slot
>> > > Doesn't support SDHC? so what's the point?
>> >
>> > > Personally, I would avoid Kogan and G1 until they fix this mess or a
>> > > better alternative is out.
>> >
>> > > 4th
>> > > for those ordering NOW, remember Kogan previously said it will be
>> > > available by Christmas? but now they say dispatch by end of
>> > > January.....
>> > > Do you think they are actually able to supply the unit by then?
>> > > I wonder......since not even a single photo of the ACTUAL unit is seen
>> > > YET......all they have is computer drawn graphics........(We have had
>> > > a mock-up of the such photo for many months now, although we have not
>> > > release it to the public because the product is not ready yet...)
>> >
>> > > Please correct me if I am wrong.
>> >
>> > > Eric
>> > > Portable Electronics Ltd
>> > >www.hdmp4.com
>> >
>> > > On Dec 5, 7:44 pm, Al Sutton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> > >> I read through it and found it to be a pefectly plausable spec.
>> >
>> > >> Given you're producing your own Android device, maybe you could share
>> > >> you wisdom as to what you think is rubbish?
>> >
>> > >> Al.
>> >
>> > >> Eric wrote:
>> >
>> > >>> Anyone noticed Kogan's Android mobile specification is complete
>> > >>> rubbish?
>> > >>> as it is obviously NOT correct?
>> >
>> > >>> I am waiting to see huge amount of complains coming through about
>> the
>> > >>> "incorrect" specifications and features claimed......lol
>> >
>> > >>> Eric
>> > >>> Portable Electronics Ltd
>> > >>>www.hdmp4.com
>> >
>> > >>> On Dec 5, 5:29 am, Zero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> > >>>> just placed my order as well. not exactly the form i prefer
>> > >>>> (i like slide out keyboards) but given the fact that  1 aud ~ 0,5 €
>> > >>>> this is a bargain.
>> >
>> > >>>> On Dec 4, 3:21 am, Steve Oldmeadow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> > >>>>> Ordered mine this morning.  It looks like a Blackberry Bold clone
>> > >>>>> running Android.
>>
>>
>
> >
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