Sure that now that there is the "developer edition" of the G1, this is by far the best option !
2008/12/7 Muthu Ramadoss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hey Eric, > > Long time, what's happening? When's your device coming out? > > take care, > Muthu Ramadoss. > > http://mobeegal.in - mobile search. redefined. +91 98403 48914 > http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz > > > On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> >#1 - This was probably been cut & pasted from the G1 literature without >> any thought when the PR guys were told "we're going to release an >> Android 'phone like the G1". >> >> This clearly shows that they have NOT idea what they are talking >> about............typical chinese company behavior.... >> AND they hardware is nowhere near completion if they can't get their >> spec correct!!!! >> >> >#2 - The formats may not be supported by existing Android >> implementations, but if Kogans R&D guys have integrated a AV library >> such as PacketCore and a player such as VLC then it's possible these >> are >> features which will be available on the Kogan 'phone, again this >> doesn't >> seem to be a fundamental blocker to it's existance. >> >> Our developer have been trying very hard to do EXACTLY this, so far no >> success........... >> Any pointers how we can implement do VLC type of codec support on >> Android? >> >> >MicroSD supports upto 16GB >> You need SDHC microSD to have 16GB, normal standard microSD card would >> only go to 4GB. >> If they didn't say it is SDHC compatible, it is safe to assume it >> isn't. >> >> >#4 - Everyone knows that product release dates tend to slip, and my >> guess is the PR department are trying to ride the Android buzz (and >> they >> seem to be doing a pretty good job of it at the moment), so again I >> don't see the reason why the Kogan 'phone can't exist because of >> this. >> >> Well, I didn't say it doesn't exist. I just believe that what they >> have released publicly doesn't correspond to what they would deliver >> in the end. Hence, I expect to see many complains to their incorrect >> spec. >> >> Re: muthu >> I agree that developers are safer to buy Google's developer edition of >> G1 than Kogan's...... >> >> >> Eric >> Portable Electronics Ltd >> www.hdmp4.com >> >> On Dec 6, 8:32 pm, Al Sutton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Eric, >> > >> > #1 - This was probably been cut & pasted from the G1 literature without >> > any thought when the PR guys were told "we're going to release an >> > Android 'phone like the G1". >> > >> > #2 - The formats may not be supported by existing Android >> > implementations, but if Kogans R&D guys have integrated a AV library >> > such as PacketCore and a player such as VLC then it's possible these are >> > features which will be available on the Kogan 'phone, again this doesn't >> > seem to be a fundamental blocker to it's existance. >> > >> > #3 - My guess is this is another typo, it probably should be "256MB >> > On-board RAM + 128MB Flash". The G1 only has 192MB of RAM, and 128MB is >> > plausable for a boot image. MicroSD supports upto 16GB and provides a >> > reasonable speed for browsing photos & music, so why do you see this as >> > a reason that the 'phone can't exist? >> > >> > #4 - Everyone knows that product release dates tend to slip, and my >> > guess is the PR department are trying to ride the Android buzz (and they >> > seem to be doing a pretty good job of it at the moment), so again I >> > don't see the reason why the Kogan 'phone can't exist because of this. >> > >> > I still don't see how you can say the specification "is complete >> > rubbish". So it's got a couple of typos, theres some tech that it >> > possible but not yet available, and they've hit some shipping delays. I >> > still beleive that the device could ship in Jan and we may see it >> happen. >> > >> > Now if there's someone from Kogan listening maybe they could give some >> > more definitive answers.... >> > >> > Al.http://andappstore.com./ >> > >> > Eric wrote: >> > > Well, there are two main category that does sound correct to me. >> > >> > > 1st >> > > Google Mobile Functions >> > > Google Search ™, Gmail ™, YouTube ™, Google Maps ™, Google Talk ™, >> > > Google Calendar ™. >> > >> > > There aren't any Gmail, Youtube, Gtalk nor Calendar apk that come >> > > along with the SDK, so where do we get that from? >> > > (I have been wondering for a long time how/where can we get these apk >> > > to use on our Android device.......since they are not provided by >> > > default.) >> > >> > > 2nd >> > > Video formats supported: >> > > MPEG2 H263, H264, MPEG4, AVI >> > >> > > I don't think Android support these formats by default either and >> > > there aren't any video player included by default. So these aren't >> > > exactly correct. >> > >> > > "Media Libraries - based on PacketVideo's OpenCORE; the libraries >> > > support playback and recording of many popular audio and video >> > > formats, as well as static image files, including MPEG4, H.264, MP3, >> > > AAC, AMR, JPG, and PNG" >> > >http://code.google.com/android/what-is-android.html >> > >> > > Last time I tried playing any video using a player build on Android's >> > > media player, no video really plays except 3gp files. So, I don't know >> > > exactly what MPEG4 or H.264 would Android work on......because all the >> > > mpeg4 encoded avi doesn't seems to play nor files with mp4 extension. >> > >> > > 3rd >> > > Memory >> > > 256 MB On-board + 128 MB Flash >> > >> > > I just spotted another mistake.........is this 256MB ram + 128MB >> > > flash? or 256MB flash + 128MB flash? 256MB flash + 128MB ram???? >> > > Either way, it is way too small since everyone knows we can't install >> > > apk on SD cards yet!!! nor in the short to medium term............... >> > >> > > microSD™ card expansion slot >> > > Doesn't support SDHC? so what's the point? >> > >> > > Personally, I would avoid Kogan and G1 until they fix this mess or a >> > > better alternative is out. >> > >> > > 4th >> > > for those ordering NOW, remember Kogan previously said it will be >> > > available by Christmas? but now they say dispatch by end of >> > > January..... >> > > Do you think they are actually able to supply the unit by then? >> > > I wonder......since not even a single photo of the ACTUAL unit is seen >> > > YET......all they have is computer drawn graphics........(We have had >> > > a mock-up of the such photo for many months now, although we have not >> > > release it to the public because the product is not ready yet...) >> > >> > > Please correct me if I am wrong. >> > >> > > Eric >> > > Portable Electronics Ltd >> > >www.hdmp4.com >> > >> > > On Dec 5, 7:44 pm, Al Sutton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > >> I read through it and found it to be a pefectly plausable spec. >> > >> > >> Given you're producing your own Android device, maybe you could share >> > >> you wisdom as to what you think is rubbish? >> > >> > >> Al. >> > >> > >> Eric wrote: >> > >> > >>> Anyone noticed Kogan's Android mobile specification is complete >> > >>> rubbish? >> > >>> as it is obviously NOT correct? >> > >> > >>> I am waiting to see huge amount of complains coming through about >> the >> > >>> "incorrect" specifications and features claimed......lol >> > >> > >>> Eric >> > >>> Portable Electronics Ltd >> > >>>www.hdmp4.com >> > >> > >>> On Dec 5, 5:29 am, Zero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > >>>> just placed my order as well. not exactly the form i prefer >> > >>>> (i like slide out keyboards) but given the fact that 1 aud ~ 0,5 € >> > >>>> this is a bargain. >> > >> > >>>> On Dec 4, 3:21 am, Steve Oldmeadow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > >>>>> Ordered mine this morning. 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