Thanks for the clarification, Al. I am still puzzled about the
reporting side of things from non-manufacturer point of view. In other
words, wouldn't you have to tell me about your company's product sales
trends in order to get me to invest in your stock? A smart investor
wouldn't be satisfied with just raw numbers showing an increase over
last year, for example (or even increases over a longer period of
time). Also, given how popular these devices are, I am surprised that
there aren't a great deal of publications with reporters paid to track
down and/or deduce sales figures from the information that is
available.

--Ed


On Mar 5, 3:55 am, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ed,
>
> Mobile 'phones suffer far more from feature differentiation than other
> devices and with many manufacturers using the same OSes revealing exact
> sales stats could put them at a competitive disadvantage.
>
> Take, for example, HTC, if they said that the Windows Mobile handset was
> outselling their Android one by 3 to 1 other mobile manufacturers would
> most likely back off Android handset development and increase work on
> Windows Mobile because that's what's selling.
>
> The other products you mention have either little in the way of major
> value add features (such as TVs and PCs) or are only be produced by one
> manufacturer (e.g. iPhone, games consoles, video games), so there is
> little point in, say Sony hiding it's sales figures for 32" LCD TVs
> because their competitors already have sales stats covering most of the
> range of sizes Sony offers showing which sizes are selling well, or
> little point in Apple hiding iPhone sales because no-one else can sell a
> phone with Mac OS iPhone on it.
>
> The closest thing to it is the video games industry which has ended up
> with a mass of First person shooters, Racing games, and Sports tie-ins
> because that's what sells, and original games like WiiFit and Little big
> planet are few and far between.
>
> Al.
>
>
>
> Ed wrote:
> > Mark,
>
> > I'm not sure that I understand this question in the context of global
> > product markets. You can find the sales figures of TVs, computers,
> > video games, gaming platforms, and nearly every other popular
> > electronic device you can name (not to mention non-electronic goods
> > like cars, airplanes, and lots of other stuff). My confusion is why
> > the cell phone market is blanketed in secrecy when pretty much every
> > other market has wide disclosure for sales figures as a basis for
> > stock value. Of course, I notice that Apple is pretty open about
> > iPhone sales, so maybe that is a clue.
>
> > I'm not interested in arguing, I'm just sincerely baffled by this.
>
> > --Ed
>
> > On Mar 4, 10:46 am, Mark Murphy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> Ed wrote:
>
> >>> I'm baffled that sales figures are so hard to find in general. I would
> >>> love to see the sales trends of G1 phones overall, in addition to per
> >>> country breakdowns.
>
> >> Why would HTC want to give out this information?
>
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