JP wrote:
>> On the "community built" front...let's just say that there's a long road
>> ahead of us for Android.
> Well the question then: is a bus coming? We are in it for a year now
> and there are still no signs there will. 

It's been a year since last fall's source release?

Damn, I missed a few months there.

;-)

Seriously, expecting collaborative software development before there is
software to collaborate upon is asking a wee bit much.

> As Muthu points out, front
> line engineers are working their butts off, but effective community
> engagement is not in sight. Instead, we get a continuing string of
> fiasco's as we are kept perpetually in the dark. A big bummer to me -
> the Android team could really differentiate itself - from Apple in
> particular - by engaging the developer community in an earnest way.

Absolutely.

> 2009, there should be
> no question that the dynamics of OSS projects weren't understood, so
> one would assume that years of explorations could be skipped and
> Google could go straight to handling this more seriously.

IMHO, the issue is one of culture change. That does not happen as easily
as flipping a light switch.

I want it to be happening faster. You want it to be happening faster.
Lots of people want it to be happening faster. What I am trying to
determine is how we can *help* it happen faster.

>> In another example, Google's GWT took the slow
>> boat to true collaborative development, but things are humming along
>> better now AFAICT.
> Things have always been calmer over at GWT because the target platform
> (browsers) are a known quantity w/o central control of the user base
> by opaque Google/carrier teams.

Which is why I brought them up. Again, IMHO, the issue was culture
change. It took a year or so for them to switch to a public repository,
and longer still to accept patches from the community. By your argument,
GWT should have been "handling this more seriously" from the
outset...but didn't. My guess is that it's a question of culture.

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