Personally I'm holding off committing anything to a more permanent build
farm until builds the open source repo are considered on a par with what
Google have.

 
Al.

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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jean-Baptiste Queru
Sent: 05 April 2009 19:44
To: [email protected]
Subject: [android-discuss] Re: Tinderboxen?


At the moment, it's clear to me (being in the middle of it) that Google is a
major bottleneck when it comes to Android as an Open-Source project.

As such, you can expect that we'll focus our energy primarily on things that
only Google can do, and much less on things that can also be done by anyone
in the community (assuming skills/time, of course), so that the desired end
result can be reached as quickly as possible.

Putting together nightly builds, opening and maintaining a wiki (...
and helping direct traffic on the mailing lists, which you've been
doing) are aspects where the community as a whole can get involved right now
without help from Google. We're also looking for contributors to sanitize
the behavior of the open-source tree on dream, or to decouple some
unfortunate proprietary dependencies that still exist in the source tree. As
time goes and more of the Google-only tasks get completed, more such options
will open.

Feel free to have the discussions about nightly builds on this group for
now, as we don't currently have a more appropriate one to have build-related
discussions on (we need one, I'm on it).

JBQ

PS: keep an eye on http://www.android.com/branding.html about the right way
to use some of the brands.

On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Mark Murphy <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
> Jean-Baptiste Queru wrote:
>> It might make sense for someone to start working on this right now, 
>> independently from Google or the core Android team, in a way that'd 
>> be decoupled from the Google infrastructure.
>>
>> This'd for sure relieve some resource pressure for the people who are 
>> working on the Android open-sourcing process at Google, as we're 
>> already overloaded and can't really take on additional tasks at the 
>> moment.
>
> I wasn't so much looking for the core Android team to do the work, 
> unless it wanted to. I am never quite clear what things Google wants 
> done where.
>
> If anyone is interested in putting together a federated build system, 
> for the purpose of generating nightly builds of key Android branches 
> (e.g., cupcake), either reply here or contact me off-list. If I can 
> get a team together, we'll work on getting a system up and running.
>
> --
> Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy)
> http://commonsware.com | http://twitter.com/commonsguy
>
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>
> >
>



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