Profanity and guns are the two pillars of American freedom. How dare you Brits take that away from us!
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 11:49 PM, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: > > Pd, > > Many countries prevent total freedom speech in law. Even in the UK (where > market is fully operational) there are several laws which prevent > defamation, slander, racial hatred comments, etc. > > Someone has to set what's considered acceptable by the masses, and if you > choose to ignore that in private conversation that's one thing, but as > we're > discussing a worldwide public forum which I see as a different problem. I'm > sure many journalists let loose with the odd profanity now and again, but > you see very few (if any) of them do it when they're broadcasting. > > I would *never* dream of telling you what to say. I'd only suggest the way > that you phrase it that doesn't immediately offend some parts of the > population. > > Al. > > > --- > > * Written an Android App? - List it at http://andappstore.com/ * > > ====== > Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the > company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House, > 152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK. > > The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not > necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's > subsidiaries. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pd > Sent: 09 April 2009 21:35 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [android-discuss] Re: Unacceptable and abusive comments needs > immediate solution from Google > > > > I see this the other way around. Have you heard how the younger generation > speak? Sometimes I don't understand what they are saying, curse words and > all. If anyone needs protecting its me :-) > > Live and let live, that's what I say. People should have the right to > express themselves. Too many "Political Correctness" evangelists have had > their way for far too long. As an example you now have to say chalk board > because anything else is seemed derogatory. > > Please don't tell me what I can and can't say and I won't tell you what you > can do or say :-) > > Profanity is frowned upon by some but it is now very common and a way of > life for some. > > Not too long ago I saw a big billboard advertisement. It had a message > saying "Some some people are gay, Get over it!". I guess a similar > message > could be used here. "Some people swear, get over it!" > > You can see a picture of one here: > http://www.stonewall.org.uk/education_for_all/news/current_news/2043.asp > > > Pd. > > > Al Sutton wrote: > > Curse words are offensive to a large amount of the population and so > > having curse words in a comment is likely to reduce it's appeal to the > mass market. > > > > > > It only takes one or two stories about young children playing on their > > parents 'phones, starting market, and turning to their parents and > > saying "what does 'This application is bulls*** and sucks c**k' mean?" > > and you'll find that it suddenly becomes demonised and people go out > > of their way to avoid it. > > > > Personally I find the user of curse words the sign of a weak argument > > where someone is trying to cause offense to distract from their lack of > facts. > > I've never found an argument not about curse words that was > > strengthened by their use and so I avoid using them because I have no > > interest in doing something I know a lot of people find immediately > offensive. > > > > Al. > > > > --- > > > > * Written an Android App? - List it at http://andappstore.com/ * > > > > ====== > > Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the > > company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House, > > 152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK. > > > > The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not > > necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's > > subsidiaries. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andreas > > Kostyrka > > Sent: 09 April 2009 15:21 > > To: [email protected] > > Cc: [email protected] > > Subject: [android-discuss] Re: Unacceptable and abusive comments needs > > immediate solution from Google > > > > > > Am Wed, 8 Apr 2009 18:51:36 -0700 (PDT) schrieb mask > > <[email protected]>: > > > > What's wrong with curse words? The highly unfunny "protect the kids" > > bullshit (curse word!!! cover your eyes!!!) does not have anything to > > do with protecting kids. > > > > One of the things that I remember from my time as a kid is, when I > > learned German in kindergarten, that this started by learning a fair > > share of curse words; nothing as cruel as some kids working their > > frustration on the new kids on the block so to say. > > > > Hint: kids don't go insane when they hear curse words. Nor do they run > > amok because they play some "killing game" on their Xbox. Nor do kids > > go crazy when you let them surf the unfiltered Internet. (Hint: a > > sensible configured ad/javascript filter makes the risk that a kid see > > something indecent rather small, and that's what parents are for, to > > explain and show guidance.) > > > > Sorry, but this crusade to scrub the Internet clean of anything > > somebody might object too is only dangerous, as it places > > infrastructure in place so that governments can censure what they do > > not like. But guess the civil rights of 300 millions citizens are way > > less important than the potential that some child might get hurt. > > Wonder if that is so, why do the same governments send our military > > forces into war zones? (I mean, some of these are teenagers, some are > > fathers, all are sons, some are brothers, husbands. Guess their lives > > are not that > > important.) > > > > Sorry, but this "political correctness" thing raises my blood pressure > > rather rapidly. > > > > And no, I do not condone using bad language and all the other bad > > things, but I condone even less people trying to filter and censure > > that bad behaviour. > > > > Andreas > > > > > > > >> I think most would agree that the comments are good to provide > >> feedback. The issue is with using abusive curse words, it does not > >> help google, developer or the users. It just shows that the user does > >> not know how to communicate and he is frustrated. He is frustrated > >> because the app is not downloading after he has made a purchase. This > >> does not justify the use of curse word . I think we all expect > >> certain amount of decency in the market place because even kids visit > >> it and other civilized people visit it as well. Market place comments > >> is not a discussion board nor frustration board. > >> > >> On Apr 9, 12:09 am, Incognito <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> I would not remove the comment system. Notice that he is leting you > >>> know there was a problem with the download. Granted, it is not your > >>> fault and he could have used better language but at least he took > >>> the time to let you know his frustration. I think is better to ask > >>> google to fix the download problem. > >>> > >>> On Apr 8, 2009, at 9:48 AM, mask <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> This is an excerpt from an application comment: > >>> > >>> "This stupid fucking shit isn't downloading/installing! What a waste > >>> sherelle 2009-04-08 04:00:44" > >>> > >>> As a developer, I would like to know when is Google going to start > >>> moderating such illiterate and ignorant people from commenting on an > >>> issue developer has no control. At least, the curse words should be > >>> removed or 'moderated' for keeping the developer community sane. > >>> Keep in mind, in the long run its the developers and their > >>> application that will eventually sell and market android platform. > >>> > >>> As a developer, all ignorant and abusive comments are least > >>> productive. Also Google's inaction in removing abusive comments are > >>> totally unacceptable. > >>> > >>> As a developer, I request Google to take immediate action by > >>> removing comments which are abusive or totally remove commenting but > >>> keep the star rating until Google provides a complete solution. > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Discuss" group. 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