On Oct 14, 9:54 pm, Jeffrey Walton <[email protected]> wrote: > On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 8:05 PM, AndyHancock <[email protected]> wrote: > > I've been eyeing a replacement for my 1st generation iPod touch for > > some time. After much asking on forums and visiting vendor shops, I > > pretty well decided on the Sony Ericsson Xperia Pro...this was about > > half a year ago, so the PDA/smartphone landscape may have changed. > > The driving consideration was that there were apps to directly synch > > the standard PIM data (Notes, Calendar, Contacts) with Outlook, that > > it had a landscape-orientation real keyboard, and the feel of the > > keyboard when I tested the shop versions. > > > What has kept me from actioning this decision was a conversation with > > an acquaintance who is positioned fairly high up on the technical side > > of RIM. He explained that the user agreeement for Android phones > > gives permission to Google to access PIM data (Contacts, Notes, and > > Calendar -- I didn't care about email because Google already has > > access to my gmail) even if don't go through the cloud. I haven't > > been able to find anything on the web to corroborate this. However, a > > friend who has an Android said that it was quite difficult to avoid > > using the cloud when using an Android phone. > > > What are the experiences of Android users at large? Does the user > > agreement actually give permission for Google to access PIM data even > > when not using Google cloud services for to manage this data? I mean, > > irrespective of whether they actually access the data. Also, as a > > second question, is it actually difficult to avoid going through the > > cloud for PIM data? I was going to use local apps that maintain such > > data resident on the device and directly sync locally with the laptop. > > Obscene terms of service are the game now a days. Apple has some of > the worst (IMHO). > > To insulate yourself, you just about have to forgo electronics. Short > of abstinence, you have to run your own cloud, email service, etc. And > stay off of Twitter, LinkdIn, Flickr, etc. > > On the good side, the court started limiting those terms in the US > (http://www.topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/lawsuit-news/2633-...). > <higher power> knows we can't count on legislators to act. They are > bought and sold like trading cards, and none appear to have the > political courage to stand up to the lobbyists and corporations.
I read that article. It's good that sanity prevails, though making one's case is a matter of having deep enough pockets to hire a persuasive lawyer. I'm old school and don't do facebook, Live Journal, twitter, linkedIn or Flicker etc. All I want is a PDA, hopefully sharing the same device as a phone and web surfing app. This constant connectedness and leaking info to others just sucks. But it was suggested on another forum that I look at 3rd party apps like Companion Link with Deja Office or Local Sync. This might qualify as your "abstinence" in a loose manner of speaking. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Security Discussions" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-security-discuss?hl=en.
