Hello,

On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:07:51 -0500
Harmon Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Paul Sokolovsky wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:45:39 -0500
> > Harmon Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> >>   After a fresh install on a SD card, I tried doing a ipkg upgrade,
> >> first with the stock 2007 feed, then with the 2008 feed. 
> > 
> > There's only one release version of the Angstrom at this time -
> > 2007.12. 2008 is the development version, and using it, or mixing
> > the two makes sense only if you do development.
> > 
>    Okay, I won't try that again -- thought it was worth a try,
> however, since the 2007 feed modules are clearly defective. Or at
> least the hostap and g_ether ones.

Well, productive next steps after that is to provide info which exact
versions work for you, and which do not, and you think they are
defective. You might think that developers keep all that info in head,
but alas, know - we're also merely humans. And dropping everything and
start to dig into h2200 images and feeds is no way easier for us than
for you, who have all that info on your hands.

> 
> 
> 
> > Per the kernel logs you posted previously, you have not a problem
> > with g_ether or prism modules, but some very, very, very weird
> > problem with networking subsystem in kernel. Quick look at the code
> > shows that only fatal memory overallocation could lead to that
> > message (assuming that there were no other signs of out of memory
> > conditions). I suggest you do a clean install by following install
> > instructions exactly, and then report exact steps to reproduce the
> > issue and relevant background info (like memory usage).
> > 
> 
>    Okay, did another clean install to the SD card, booted it, got
> usbnet working, and did an "ipkg update"  (no "upgrade" this time) and
> obviously usb networking (g_ether) is working fine at this point. 

"ipkg update" doesn't make any changes to installed packages, just
freshens ipkg's feed lists.

> I
> plug in my prism wifi card (which works fine in familiar 0.8.4 and
> wince on this h2200, and also on my h3765 ipaq running familiar
> 0.8.4, and also under debian etch on my laptop) and angstrom loads
> hostap_cs and hostap and ieee80211_crypt as it should. The light on
> the card blinks a bit, then stays steady as if connected. And,
> indeed, running iwconfig shows it is connected to my wifi
> access-point as it should be, except it gets no ip because it can't
> seem to do the WEP stuff right. And yes, the key is correct.
>    So, then I do a "ipkg install kernel-module-hostap-cs" followed by
> a "ipkg install kernel-module-hostap" and likewise with the
> ieee80211_crypt module.
>     So I do a "modprobe hostap_cs" -- that loads, and loads the other
> two appropriate modules, but the system is still working okay. So
> then I insert the card, and that's it, the system is hung. 

That's bad. Hangs are always very bad. Unfortunately, I personally
cannot help with that at all - while I have a device with CF here, I
have zero cards in my possession. So, best choices you have are: 1)
Submit bug with all the info above to the bugtracker - that's
responsible user's position; 2) Read list archives to see if problem
was discussed - experienced user's position (some WiFi card problems
were of course discussed; as I don't have CF cards, I personally skip
content indexing of such threads, so cannot hint you if your issue is a
FAQ or something completely unheard of); 3) Try to ping people whom you
learnt from step 2 to have similar setups and try to solve issues in
direct communications - practical user's position.

> So I do a
> reset, start it up again from wince with haret, get usbnet going
> again, and this time don't load hostap manually, just insert the card
> -- bang, the system is hung again.
>     Reboot -- this time I upgrade the g_ether module as I did the
> hostap. So unload the old g_ether and load the new one and once again
> the system crashes.
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ modprobe -r g_ether
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ modprobe  g_ether
> [  240.080000] ether gadget: using random self ethernet address
> [  240.090000] ether gadget: using random host ethernet address
> [  240.130000] Kernel panic - not syncing: devinet: Failed to create
> loopbak[  240.130000]

I wonder, how this message was gotten? You see, kernel source don't
have a typo, it has "devinet: Failed to create loopbak". While I see
this 3rd time in your mails with that typo. Was it you initially
recording it from screen by hand, and then cut&paste, or something
else? (You see, that's how developer's mind works - to spot small
inconsistencies, and see, if big inconsistencies can be inferred from
that).

> 
>     Note that in this case I am *not* doing a whole system "ipkg
> upgrade", just upgrading the hostap and g_ether modules, but the
> result is the same. So I'd say it is the modules.

Well, generally, you cannot upgrade some modules, and not upgrade
others. Kernel and all modules must be upgraded in concord. But since
Angstrom release, we haven't really upgraded kernel version - it stays
on -hh20 exactly because it's well anticipated that upgrading kernel
with the current infra we have is a big chore for users (fixing that
is my personal top priority scope of work). So, we upgrade just kernel
releases, and try to make changes within them which are compatible. But
some issues may still arise, or there can indeed be file corruption
somewhere (albeit with very little probability). Giving out as exact
info as possible is the best way to bump this issue's priority in
developers' list.

[]
> 
> > Also, you can try to add /etc/modutils/g_ether file, which should be
> > there, and will be, once h2200 people will bother to do backport to
> > the stable branch.
> 
>    What should be in that file?

The easiest way to answer that q, and not wait till I do that, is to
look at what's in other similar files in that dir, and do the same.

> 
> 
> -- 
> Harmon Seaver



-- 
Best regards,
 Paul                          mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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