Hi Elodie,
 
glad to see that you move to explore also the BB approach. 

However, I am sorry but I don't see the point of comparing the "traditional" 
kernel estimation with the BB approach, because the BB approach lies on a quite 
different assumption (time spent in an area) so comparison with "traditional" 
kernel could make no sense, although as stated in some papers, usually the 
Kernel estimation and the BB estimation are quite comparable.

I  would guess that the problem here is with the different methods used to 
calculate the overlap, e.g. BA and UDOI. Might be useful to carefully go 
further into the details of such methods as they are quite different in their 
outputs.

Additionally, according to what I can figure out from the behaviour of your 
species (penguin), I personally think that the BB approach should be more 
"realistic" than the kernel as "foraging" movements from one patch of food 
(schools of fish) to another should be probably better "described" by the 
former approach. 


From the code you posted, it seems like everything is fine.
One additional tip, what happened if you plot the two approach (traditional 
kernel vs BB)?
A visual inspection of what the models do can drive you into the topic better 
than numbers.  

All the best
Stef



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Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 14:34:07 +1000
From: "Elodie Camprasse" <elodie.campra...@gmail.com>
To: <animov@faunalia.it>
Subject: [AniMov] interpretation of kerneloverlap and kerneloverlaphr
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G'day everyone, 

I am working on tracking data from penguins and would like to determine the
consistency of space use from each of my individuals from one trip to the
next. I calculated kerneloverlap between consecutive trips (standard kernel)
and wanted to compare the results of the kerneloverlaphr after using the
Brownian bridge model. I am not understanding the results I am getting,
however, and I was hoping someone could help me understand them. I pretty
much get opposite results (in the case of kerneloverlap, the individuals are
consistent from one trip to the next, and in the case of kerneloverlaphr,
they are not). 

I have created a reproducible example (csv attached) where an individual has
GPS coordinates for two consecutive trips. 

I used the following code:

test2_kernel<-read.csv("reproducible_example_kerneloverlap2.csv", header=T)



# Try the kerneloverlap approach

test2_kernel_df<-SpatialPointsDataFrame(coords=test2_kernel[, c(2,3)],
data=test2_kernel[, c(1,4)], proj4string = CRS("+proj=utm +zone=55 +south
+ellps=GRS80 +towgs84=0,0,0,0,0,0,0 +units=m +no_defs"), bbox = NULL)

test2_kernel_BA<-kerneloverlap(test2_kernel_df[,1], grid=200, meth="BA")

test2_kernel_BA

test2_kernel_UDOI<-kerneloverlap(test2_kernel_df[,1], grid=200, meth="UDOI")

test2_kernel_UDOI



# Try the kernelbb and then kerneloverlaphr approach

test2_kernel$timestamp
<-as.POSIXct(strptime(as.character(test2_kernel$timestamp),"%d/%m/%Y
%H:%M"), "GMT")

test2_coords<-test2_kernel[, c(2,3)]

test2_coords_meters<-project(as.matrix(test2_coords), "+proj=utm +zone=55
+south +ellps=GRS80 +towgs84=0,0,0,0,0,0,0 +units=m +no_defs")

test2_coords_meters<-as.data.frame(test2_coords_meters)

colnames(test2_coords_meters)<-c("Longitude_meters", "Latitude_meters")

test2_kernel$Longitude_meters<-test2_coords_meters$Longitude_meters

test2_kernel$Latitude_meters<-test2_coords_meters$Latitude_meters

test2_ltraj<-as.ltraj(xy =
test2_kernel[,c("Longitude_meters","Latitude_meters")], date =
test2_kernel$timestamp, id=test2_kernel$id)

lik <- liker(test2_ltraj, sig2 = 4, rangesig1 = c(0, 10))

test2_kernelbb<-kernelbb(test2_ltraj, sig1=5, sig2=4, grid = 200)

test2_kernelbb_BA<-kerneloverlaphr(test2_kernelbb, grid=200, meth="BA")

test2_kernelbb_BA

test2_kernelbb_UDOI<-kerneloverlaphr(test2_kernelbb, grid=200, meth="UDOI")

test2_kernelbb_UDOI. 



In the kerneloverlap approach, I am getting high indices, like this:

test2_kernel_BA

          1st_trip  2nd_trip

1st_trip 0.9998753 0.8604860

2nd_trip 0.8604860 0.9998635

> test2_kernel_UDOI

          1st_trip  2nd_trip

1st_trip 1.4040774 0.7812684

2nd_trip 0.7812684 1.3015604



In the kerneloverlap approach, I am getting low indices, like this:

test2_kernelbb_BA
          1st_trip  2nd_trip
1st_trip 1.0000000 0.1375754
2nd_trip 0.1375754 1.0000000
> test2_kernelbb_UDOI
           1st_trip   2nd_trip
1st_trip 6.46508189 0.02059335
2nd_trip 0.02059335 2.75579098



Could anyone tell me what I'm missing please? Your help would be greatly
appreciated! 

Kind regards,

Elodie



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