I'm going to say rds vs rds2 is unrelated to your two issues, unfortunately.

I've updated 7958 - my refactoring* of the rds module won't currently affect 
this behaviour (although it could if I understood the requirements better).

7952 is part of a different module (rds_params_group) that I currently have no 
plans to touch.

* I say refactoring, git diff thinks it's a complete rewrite, even though I 
haven't touched some lines at all (mostly the module declaration). I am reusing 
a lot of the existing logic.

Will

On 27 Aug 2014, at 19:33, Dan Vaida <vaida....@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ah-ha!
> This might very well be the cause for my issues: 
> https://github.com/ansible/ansible/issues/7958&; 
> https://github.com/ansible/ansible/issues/7952
> 
> On Monday, 25 August 2014 03:41:26 UTC+2, Will Thames wrote:
> Digging up an old thread (as I came across 
> https://github.com/ansible/ansible/issues/7564 looking at tagging RDS 
> instances).
> 
> It looks like the rds2 module is automatically generated so that it keeps up 
> to date with upstream AWS capabilities, and this change broke backward 
> compatibility. 
> http://boto.readthedocs.org/en/latest/migrations/rds_v1_to_v2.html
> 
> Do we have a minimum supported boto version? We could rewrite the RDS module 
> to use rds2, but that might affect users on earlier boto versions. Supporting 
> both seems like a headache. However, I suspect we could just use rds2 for the 
> features that just aren't in rds (so make a boto.rds2.RDSConnection if we 
> need to do instance tagging or publicly available).
> 
> I'm hoping I can use the ec2_tag module to work around my problem but it's 
> worth discussing in more general terms - we can deprecate old Ansible 
> conventions, but when do we deprecate old boto libraries?
> 
> Will
> 
> 
> On Thursday, June 12, 2014 9:25:32 AM UTC+10, Michael DeHaan wrote:
> This I don't know.
> 
> Maybe so other RDS using folks would have input.
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 4:29 PM, iain wright <iain...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Michael,
> 
> Thanks for the reply! That makes sense, I'm still learning the 
> ansible/correct way :)
> 
> Do you think we should we pursue modifying the boto rds interface to support 
> the param or should we modify the ansible rds module to use rds2 (which seems 
> to support option groups and a couple other things like publicly_accessible). 
> 
> I don't really understand & couldn't find any history as to why boto added 
> "rds2" instead of iterating on the existing rds interface:
> 
> https://github.com/boto/boto/tree/develop/boto/rds
> https://github.com/boto/boto/tree/develop/boto/rds2
> 
> Cheers,
> iain
> 
> 
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> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Michael DeHaan <mic...@ansible.com> wrote:
> It seems very non-Ansible-way to have another copy of the module that just 
> uses a different protocol.
> 
> Couldn't this just be changed up to support the new parameter?
> 
> --Michael
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:29 AM, iain wright <iain...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> The goal was to provision an rds instance using ansible, which was easy 
> enough using this module: http://docs.ansible.com/rds_module.html
> 
> Unfortunately this module doesn't have the option to allow the RDS to pass in 
> publicly_accessible and ec2 defaults making it publicly accessible to false. 
> We'd like this seed our data on instance creation, proper security groups are 
> used ofcourse.
> 
> I tried modifying the module to include publicly_accessible where needed but 
> it looks the boto rds doesn't support it:
> <localhost> REMOTE_MODULE rds size=10 password=VALUE_HIDDEN 
> publicly_accessible=true command=create instance_type=db.m1.small 
> instance_name=prod-rds2 engine_version=5.6 
> aws_access_key=AKIAJKMT2FVVHTPMEI6Q 
> aws_secret_key=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 region=us-west-1 
> vpc_security_groups=sg-905fb6f5 db_engine=MySQL subnet=prod-rds username=admin
> <localhost> EXEC ['/bin/sh', '-c', 'mkdir -p 
> $HOME/.ansible/tmp/ansible-tmp-1402373676.78-265376028601009 && chmod a+rx 
> $HOME/.ansible/tmp/ansible-tmp-1402373676.78-265376028601009 && echo 
> $HOME/.ansible/tmp/ansible-tmp-1402373676.78-265376028601009']
> <localhost> PUT /tmp/tmpDEylEv TO 
> /home/iain/.ansible/tmp/ansible-tmp-1402373676.78-265376028601009/rds
> <localhost> EXEC ['/bin/sh', '-c', u'LC_CTYPE=C LANG=C /usr/bin/python 
> /home/iain/.ansible/tmp/ansible-tmp-1402373676.78-265376028601009/rds; rm -rf 
> /home/iain/.ansible/tmp/ansible-tmp-1402373676.78-265376028601009/ >/dev/null 
> 2>&1']
> failed: [localhost] => (item={'username': 'admin', 'subnet': 
> 'prod-public-rds', 'db_engine': 'MySQL', 'name': 'prod-rds2', 
> 'instance_type': 'db.m1.small', 'password': 'omitted_from_mailing_list', 
> 'engine_version': 5.6, 'size': 10}) => {"failed": true, "item": {"db_engine": 
> "MySQL", "engine_version": 5.6, "instance_type": "db.m1.small", "name": 
> "prod-rds2", "password": "omitted_from_mailing_list", "size": 10, "subnet": 
> "prod-public-rds", "username": "admin"}, "parsed": false}
> invalid output was: Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File 
> "/home/iain/.ansible/tmp/ansible-tmp-1402373676.78-265376028601009/rds", line 
> 2048, in <module>
>     main()
>   File 
> "/home/iain/.ansible/tmp/ansible-tmp-1402373676.78-265376028601009/rds", line 
> 487, in main
>     result = conn.create_dbinstance(instance_name, size, instance_type, 
> username, password, publicly_accessible, **params)
> TypeError: create_dbinstance() got an unexpected keyword argument 
> 'publicly_accessible'
> 
> 
> Boto does have rds2 which does seem to support this: 
> https://github.com/boto/boto/blob/develop/boto/rds2/layer1.py
> 
> Is anyone interested in creating an rds2 module in ansible for this? Is this 
> the proper place to request such a module or are they generally user provided?
> 
> Thank you,
> iain
> 
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