----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Loughran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> yeah, ant-dev has #3 traffic count on the nagoya archive; it is > institutionalised that it will be hard to move people from ant1 to ant2. I don't think that the traffic in the dev list can be used this way...I think that someone in commons or general did a deeper analysis between # messages and unique senders and committers indicating projects with a very high development activity and few users. > to Java1.2+ > ----------- > Regarding a move to Ant1.2, je m'en fous about running on MSJVM or J#, and > indeed J# actually adds collections, and maybe even File.setLastModified(), > so maybe Don box will be able to run ant on the CLR after all (*), though of > course we will respond to all support calls related to the CLR to nous > nous'en fous (DD, Stephane correct?). "on s'en fout" or "nous nous en foutons" first one being more appropriate in this case. ( for non french speaking people : "we don't give a sh*" ) > -The fact that there are bugs related to <java> on MSJVM that we have never > fixed because nobody ever reported them, shows that that is not a popular > platform. MSJVM still kicks ass in performance after years but let's face it it's not widely used in a professional development environment... > We had always said that Ant 2.0 would be Java1.2, even 12+ months ago when > it was specced. Maybe it is time to move the Ant to Java1.2, even if that > means we have to call it version 2. We still need to be able to build *for* > 1.1 (and should test for that), even though we dont build *on* 1.1. Yes I think that's the main point. We must be able to separate the libs used to run Ant than the one needed by the user. A couple of things are not very correct to me, mainly for example <javac> includeantruntime which defaults to yes... this is obviouslly very bad practice that has been there forever and is fundamentally WRONG. Much water has flowed under the bridges since Ant 2 first specs...it has been good not to hurry and jump into Ant2. Stephane -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
