Just to clarify, I'm actually +0 on adding those tasks to Ant's core. I've
given the ones from ant-contrib a try and they are well done and certainly
would be useful to many. I've not found a need for them in any of my builds
to-date though, but I'm also only doing pure Java development mostly for
building webapps.
Erik
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dominique Devienne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Ant Users List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 11:29 AM
Subject: RE: "if" task
> This scripty notion is just plain silly. You almost always have to do
builds
> conditionally. That's why make has them, and that's why ANT has them too,
> albeit in a very ugly way by means of <condition>/properties and
> if/unless/os on targets and other things too. Even Diane, the person who
> gives the best advise on ANT, seems to think <if>/<foreach>/<trycatch> are
> more than worthwhile, and their use makes build files 100 times better
> structured than all these targets if/unless/os triggered by properties,
> etc...
>
> The objective to encapsulate all conditional/repetitive processes into
tasks
> is great, and ANT has made good progress on many tasks, but preventing all
> ANT users out there of clean and elegant conditional/repetitive execution
of
> tasks, well that's being very blind to users need. People will prototype
> their build processes with <if>/<foreach>/etc... and later streamline it
> into a cleaner task or two.
>
> Just try putting to a vote the inclusion of <if>/<foreach> into ANT core
to
> ANT *users*!!! These are still XML, are XSLT transformable, are clean and
> elegant. They just formalize into a very natural way what ANT already does
> (in a very inelegant way). Meritocracy shouldn't mean dismissing the need
of
> a very sizeable chunk of the ANT user community.
>
> --Dominique "scripty" Devienne
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Erik Hatcher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 4:31 AM
> To: Ant Users List
> Subject: Re: "if" task
>
> Write your builds in Perl if you want "scripty".
>
> Hey, even call Ant from there if you like. :))
>
> By the way, there is a <script> task too.
>
> Erik
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Bettin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Ant Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 12:04 AM
> Subject: Re: "if" task
>
>
> >
> > > It's considered too "scripty".
> >
> > What is the motivation to keep ant from being to
> > "scripty"?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Dave
> >
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