Steve, What people often forget is that there are OpenTool alternatives to the features that Borland sells for a premium. For example, I use Ant Builder to execute Ant tasks from the free version of JBuilder. There are OpenTools that will automatically generate Strut's code, support templating, integrate with every VCS (including CVS, PVCS, Source Safe, StarTeam etc). There are several open tools for creating unit tests as well. All of these features, Borland includes in their Enterprise edition, and charges an arm and a leg for. Check em out at http://codecentral.borland.com/codecentral/ccweb.exe/prodcat?prodid=3&catid=11
Regards, Mark Fortner Steve Loughran wrote: >>From the feature set of JBuilder 7, I see that they have finally added >native ant support >http://www.borland.com/jbuilder/pdf/jb7_feamatrix.pdf > >but only on the enterprise edition. Like, they had to pay so much for >ant.jar that they had to put them in the prestige premium tool that costs >the same as two laptops. > >It's funny; I'd have thought that ant would help deprecate the selling price >of the premium stuff, or at least let IDEs focus on what they are good at: >editing, refactoring and collaboration. But no, borland keep ant part of the >premium product, perhaps to ensure that all the features ant offers -junit, ><zip>, deployment are also kept at a premium. > >Sigh. > >On the plus side, it means that all of the mainstream IDEs support Ant, even >the 'Enterprise' tools. This is a sign of progress. Even in the enterprise, >your build can be independent of an IDE. I wonder if they realise what they >have done. > >-Steve > >[running IDEA fullscreen in the other monitor, generating java classes from >an XSD file via Castor and ant, then deploying to tomcat and running http >unit tests] > > >-- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>