On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 14:40:02 +0000 "Sascha Luck [ml]" <a...@c4inet.net> wrote: > On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 01:05:19PM +0000, Brian Nisbet wrote: > >This morning Tobias and I asked the NCC to take the very unusual > >step, effectively immediately, of removing the person behind > >sv...@xs4all.nl from the Anti-Abuse WG mailing list. This was > >not done lightly, rather it was done to safeguard this > >community. > Safeguard it from what? Non-approved opinions? Please note that, > as a notional member of said community, I was not asked whether I > wanted to be "safeguarded". Thank you, Daddy, for looking out for > my well-being but I'm old enough to look after that myself...
speak for yourself! I am still young and beautiful :) > >It is not a place to insult, to decry, to repeatedly state the > >same point over and over > While I agree, there are some others guilty of that, viz. the > repeated accusation that ISPs (and the RIPE NCC) are criminals > (or at least in league with such) etc. Seemingly, they have yet > to be banned from this list. > >or to discriminate against other members of the community based > >on their race, creed, gender or sexual preferences. > A quick browse (and thanks for making me have to do that)through > the relevant contributions has not thrown up any obvious evidence > of any such statements. If you have any that I might have missed, > I'd like to see it. Otherwise, I think, an apology for what > certainly reads like a gratuitious accusation is more than > appropriate. > >If we cannot maintain a list upon which reasonable discussion > >can take place, then it leaves our community in a weakened > >state. > Agreed. So, if censorship be it, please remove all the other > trolls, including their sockpuppets, from this list. I suspect it > will be a very quiet one after that and perhaps deservedly so. > If nobody is to be allowed to ridicule or criticise the "other" > side - and the contributor has a valid point, however annoyingly > presented, it is not a "community" but a "cult". > Kind Regards, > Sascha Luck > mostly +1 buuut... well... i like being on a list with the ilk of Gert & Suresh & the dudes with seriosu abuse skillz :) - even if we are to be a cult :) please tell me about the alleged sockpuppet(s) - seriously (no trolling) i have sneaky suspicions, but, well, nothing concrete... For the rest, I am filled with FUD and each character typed results in an adjustment of tinfoil... - wondering what I am guilty of (cause I am always guilty of something - even if only of being ignorant of my own ignorance :) ) beFUDded ooh, if we are a cult, please do not kick me out... i have always wanted to be in a cult! - so are we a cult or no? Andre