Internet Abuse is not a "RIPE" thing it is an "Internet thing"
and, an abuse wg - is about internet abuse and not just about RIPE.
so, abuse wg's should discuss internet abuse and not just as it relates
to RIR 

please feel free to tell me if you do not agree and that only abuse at
RIPE should be discussed and that posting AS for South America or any
other region or that the types of abuse should be boxed and limited.

That however is a different thread and even your question is hijacking
the current thread, which is of course quite rude (or ignorant?). Then
again, there are many rude people here, so I guess it matters not.

Do you have anything to add or contribute to this thread?

The salient previous point was that the "innovation" by Google will
cause a "domino effect" and that this change is abuse and that it will
eventually also affect you.


On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 06:06:58 +0100 (GMT+01:00)
Cynthia Revström <m...@cynthia.re> wrote:

> How is this relevant to RIPE?
>  - Cynthia
> 
> Thu Mar 14 06:05:10 GMT+01:00 2019 ac <a...@main.me>:
> 
> > On Wed, 13 Mar 2019 14:28:24 -0700
> > "Ronald F. Guilmette"   wrote:  
> > > ac   you wrote:  
> > > >Now Google has apparently started saving, tracking and keeping
> > > >all https URL's that its chrome/chrome lite products use.  
> > > And?
> > > If you don't like it, vote with your feet and use a different
> > > browser. If you have trouble finding any such, try googleing for
> > > "browser download".
> > > Oops! But I guess that would expose you to mind numbing and
> > > tragically horrible snooping on your private parts.
> > > Sorry. My bad.
> > > Regards,
> > > rfg
> > > P.S. My apologies to the list for indulging that which should not
> > > be indulged.
> > >  
> >
> > I see that you are ignorant of what this actually means?
> >
> > Maybe their are other tech's that are also ignorant of what this
> > really means?
> >
> > HTTPS protocol, by design, is secure and private.
> >
> > The average consumer expects this to be true.
> >
> > Google had to actually go and change, in an "under cover" way, the
> > entire way and method that HTTPS works. This "change" is being sold
> > as a "good thing" to poor people and/or people with low bandwidth
> > and that Google is doing a "good thing" by making this change.
> >
> > I know already: Everything Google is not always what it seems and
> > it is a slippery slope. Soon Google will also be storing all Chrome
> > https url's
> >
> > Now: Here is the REAL bad evil - that is coming to YOU (and Me) in
> > the future:
> >
> > So, Chrome, for its tracking, will be faster.
> >
> > User will think - ooh, faster = better.
> >
> > In all probability this is just the very first change in how local
> > software manages HTTPS url's and other browsers may be forced to do
> > similar EVIL as the user (sheep) experience of Chrome users will be
> > faster (the local device will now store the actual media and link it
> > with the stored URL)
> >
> > By our silence and by our acceptance of the method and how Google
> > does what it does we allow this business to dominate and control.
> >
> > One could also argue that not only is this abuse, but it is fraud.
> >
> > As many things Google is often misrepresented.
> >
> > It should be made clear to consumers that they are products.
> >
> > Society should step up and Governments should do much much more
> >
> > to protect the weak, the stupid and all the sheep.
> >
> > The Google users do not expect, understand or agree that all the
> > https url's they visit will be tracked, used and stored.
> >
> > And, this is why this is abuse and/or evil.
> >
> > Andre
> >
> >
> >
> >  
> 


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