In message <cakvlzug7ppttqdwx2godguldmlzdz5fzwtwa2puvqwrqghf...@mail.gma il.com>, denis walker <ripede...@gmail.com> writes
>On Mon, 6 Jun 2022 at 16:15, Richard Clayton <rich...@highwayman.com> wrote: >> You appear to be under the impression that Internet security and safety >> arises out of the activities of Law Enforcement Agencies whereas in >> practice private individuals and companies do the vast majority of this >> work -- generating referrals to LEAs when it is appropriate for action >> to be taken that only they can perform >We are talking about restricting access to one piece of data, the >address of natural persons. it's several lines of data ... > I accept that a lot of abuse may come from >address space held by natural people. I understand that a lot of >investigation work is done by companies and individuals. How much of >an impact would it be on your activities to not know the private >address of these natural people? what matters is the matching of data, so that it becomes possible to link otherwise disparate activity together -- and also to proactively deal with the risk of further abuse >From the country attribute in their >ORGANISATION object (accurately maintained by the RIPE NCC) you know >the country that they are legally operating from. You don't know the >street or city they work out of. exactly -- now for bad people, this data is often inaccurate and incomplete, but nevertheless patterns (and consistent inconsistencies!) are often apparent >I can only think of three reasons why >you would need the full address. You intend to visit them (unlikely), >you want to serve legal papers on them or you attempt some kind of >heuristics with the free text search in the database to match up >resources with the same address. the last of these three is what matters -- the other two activities are generally the purview of Law Enforcement and they will be working off rather more information than WHOIS (correspondence with RIPE, payment information etc). -- richard Richard Clayton Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Benjamin Franklin 11 Nov 1755
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