I don't have an issue expanding the scope of the WG by e.g. rechartering
as security wg. This would be probably be useful.
In relation to lack of progress on WG policy items and repeated circular
discussions, most of the these centered on one of two things 1.
perceived lack of viability of some of the operational proposals and 2.
using policies to mandate the RIPE NCC to enforce specific behaviour on
the part of number resource registrants. Rather than spending more
effort on things that we can't agree on, it might be better to focus on
things that we can, or at least have a chance of agreeing on? For
example common standards for security, operational recommendations, etc.
Nick
Markus de Brün <mailto:mar...@mxdomain.de>
21 March 2024 at 09:09
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Dear Anti-Abuse Working Group Members,
As Co-Chairs, we have been carefully monitoring the discussions on the
mailing list and are concerned about the current state of stagnation
and lack of progress.
After consideration and discussion among the Co-Chairs, we believe it
is necessary to initiate a dialogue regarding the future direction of
our working group. Some action is needed to revitalise our efforts.
The Co-Chairs have discussed a number of options, both between
ourselves and with the RIPE Chair Team. However, due to the lack of
general engagement, and the circular conversations on the list, we see
three viable options at this point::
1.
Re-charteringthe working group, possibly transitioning it into a
Security Working Group to broaden our scope and address related
concerns comprehensively. (The current charter can be found here:
https://www.ripe.net/community/wg/active-wg/anti-abuse/)
2.
It is possible we are simply the wrong Co-Chairs at the wrong
time, so we can step-downand allow the working group to select new
Co-Chairs.
3.
Closing the working groupif consensus cannot be reached on a
viable path forward.
It may be that there are people in the Working Group who are eager to
propose new policies, or embark on a project to systematically examine
the abuse ecosystem, but over the last year or so, there has been no
evidence this is the case.
However, we firmly believe that the best course of action is to engage
all members of the Anti-Abuse Working Group in an open and transparent
discussion about the challenges we face and the opportunities for
positive change. Your input and perspectives are invaluable in shaping
the future of our community.
Therefore, we are inviting you to participate actively in this crucial
conversation. We encourage you to share your thoughts, suggestions,
and concerns regarding the current state of the working group and your
vision for its future direction.
Your input will help inform our next steps and guide the evolution of
the Anti-Abuse Working Group. We encourage you to share your feedback
openly on the mailing list so that all members can participate in the
conversation. We hope to discuss the status at RIPE88.
Thank you for reading this far. We look forward to your active
participation in shaping the future of the Anti-Abuse Working Group.
Best regards,
Brian, Tobias, Markus
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