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In a book attacking "extremism" entitled "Left, Right: the March of Political Extremism in Britain", (published in 1980 or 1981) the right-wing Labourite John Tomlinson (now an MEP) called the SPGB (the main WSM organisation) "democratic" and "moderate". What he really meant was that they were a sterile sect constituting no threat to the established order whatsoever. Steve K. ______________________________________________________ >From: mart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >CC: Barry Stoller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: WSM and utopian nihilism [WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK] >Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 10:00:05 -0500 > >HTTP://WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK >--------------------------- > >They support every revolution, except those that succeed......or would even >attempt to. >mart >----- Original Message ----- >From: Barry Stoller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 9:24 AM >Subject: WSM and utopian nihilism [WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK] > > > HTTP://WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK > > --------------------------- > > > > > > The WSM criticize all actual socialism, supporting only the 'socialist > > ideal.' Thus they render socialism an unachievable heaven all the better > > to reject socialism on earth. This is negative support for capitalism. > > > > It's the same game the Ayn Rand kooks play. > > > > According to the 'Objectivists,' there is no 'real' capitalism. It's an > > 'unknown ideal' corrupted in practice by horrible 'collectivists' like > > Bill Clinton. Only when there are no, absolutely NO, restrictions on > > capital whatsoever -- child slavery, the works -- then, and only then, > > will the 'real' thing occur. Until then, it's only 'degenerated' or > > 'deformed' capitalism. > > > > Get the comparison here? > > > > The point: if we reject the crap Ayn Rand line posited above as sorry > > utopian apologetics, then, following that rejection, we must also reject > > the same when it is practiced by leftists and 'leftists.' > > > > Capitalism has a history -- a history in the real world -- and that > > history forms its critique AND its support. > > > > Likewise, socialism has a history -- a history in the real world -- and > > that history forms its critique AND its support. > > > > To criticize WITHOUT acknowledging ANY support is to clearly take the > > other side. > > > > The WSM sucks! > > > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > > > Barry Stoller > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ProletarianNews > > > > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ==^================================================================ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?a84x2u.a9WB2D Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^================================================================
