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----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Rozoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 7:47 AM Subject: Re: Germany And US To Dialogue On World Conquest [WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK] HTTP://WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK --------------------------- > A moment's thought would provide you answers >to the questions you pose. All that would remain then would be for someone to think it. >Germany is number two among NATO nations, behind the >United States, in population, gross domestic product >and percentage/aggregate amount of funds contributed >to the NATO budget. In other words the US's primary competitor. >In fact there are German - NATO - troops on U.S. soil, >from military personnel in Oklahoma to a NATO tank >unit that entered from Canada last year, raising fears >of the introduction of BSE into this country at the >time. US is not suffering occupation by German troops as Germany is US troops. >I believe there are also German warplanes >patrolling the Atlantic coast of the United States. Exactly so and they do so without a hint of imperial interest? >There are at this very moment German troops, naval >vessels and warplanes stationed abroad for the first >time since the defeat of the Third Reich in 1944: In >the U.S., Bosnia, Kosovo, Macedonia (where they're in >charge of the NATO occupation), Afghanistan, Kuwait, >Sudan, Yemen and who knows where else. Exactly so and they do so without a trace of imperial interest? >No, it's not been the case for 53 years that the U.S. >and its NATO allies have been, officially as a NATO >operation invoking Article 5 of the NATO Charter, >engaged in warfare and occupation outside of Europe; >that is, outside the alleged theater of operation that >defines NATO. US made most of the running attacking Korea, Vietnam, Panama with tacit NATO approval while the attack on Iraq was led by the main part by NATO countries. >No, until the 1990s Germany, the U.S. and other >Western military powers, officially under the NATO >banner, had not plotted to tear apart, impoverish and >bomb a European (or any other) nation which presented >positively no threat to any NATO member state. Officially no, tacitly yes. >As for Schroeder's and Fischer's alleged reservations >about the Axis of Evil lunacy and plans for the >destruction of Iraq, I repeat myself: It's a con game, >just as supposed German government 'agonizing' over >troop deployments to Macedonia and Afghanistan earlier >were. 57 years ago Germany and US were engaged in full-scale imperial war against each other a war which was the fulfilment of capitalist competition. There were no doubt moments of reflection and indecision as to where in the World and at what moment the fighting would take place but take place it did. >Germany (and France and Britain) will wholeheartedly >support and participate in any and every >U.S.-initiated military aggression anywhere in the >world. Not possesing a crystal ball it would be impossible to say but clearly we can say that the politico-economic competition between what remain after all imperial powers each striving to protect and expand the interests of their own capitalist elites and the social system over which they prevail is now coming to the fore. >To fail to recognize the qualitatively more advanced, >and dangerous, dynamic introduced with NATO expansion >starting in 1997, with the practical testing and >implementation of it in the 1999 war against >Yugoslavia, and since then the global operationalizion >of NATO as the military wing of Western globalization >is to miss the most significant and alarming events of >the post-Cold War world. To fail to recognise that at the very moment NATO is seeking to present a united front to the rest of the World it is increasingly riven with division due to the inherent contention of our old 'friend' capitalistic competitiveness would be to accept the propaganda of 'globalisation' at face value. >This isn't 1950 or even 1990. No, its 1984 :-) >Which is why we need to expose and oppose NATO and >demand its dismantling. Declaring a steel embargo as the basis of 'free trade' demands that we recognise NATO is busily dismantling itself. >Period. Comma, Bill. --- Bill Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > HTTP://WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK > --------------------------- > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rick Rozoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 8:26 PM > Subject: Germany And US To Dialogue On World > Conquest [WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK] > > > HTTP://WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK > --------------------------- > > >[The sorry farce of alleged fine shades of > difference > >between NATO powerhouses the U.S. and Germany is > what > >among not particularly delicate police > interrogators > >is called good cop-bad cop, with both working > >completely for the same purpose. > > How would one explain US troops occupying > German soil? > > >That purpose is the establishment of a militarized > >world under the heel of the U.S. power structure > and > >its NATO allies; > > Has not that been the case for 53 years? > > > the true differences, to the extent > >they exist, revolve around which of the conquerors > >gains predominant political and economic influence > in > >any given region and whose death merchants win a > >particular arms contract with an impoverished > >satellite nation. > > Could this difference not be extended to include > the entire World? > > >Under the iron tutelage of Herr Schroder and Herr > >Fischer, Germany is currently under the sway of the > >military metaphysic (C. Wright Mills) as it has > ever > >been. > >"Rarely was the emotional bond between Americans > and > >Germans more palpable." > >The American and German peoples have every right to > >feel a strong bond with each other, as they do with > >every other people on earth. > > Are the officials necessarily speaking for the > People? > > >But the bond that Joschka Fischer is speaking about > >was forged among the unaccountable elites of both > >nations at the end of World War Two, > > Do German troops occupy US soil? > > >baptized during > >the Cold War and the founding of NATO, confirmed > with > >the joint subversion and violent dismemberment of > >Yugoslavia beginning in the early 1990s, > consummated > >in the 79 day terror bombing of the same nation > three > >years ago and the ongoing occupation of Kosovo and > >Macedonia, become a blood pact in the war in > >Afghanistan and the current military buildup in the > >Horn of Africa and the Gulf of Aden, and soon to > >produce its most monstrous progeny in the proposed > war > >against Iraq and much of the rest of the world.] > > > Could one overlook the opposition shown by > Germany concerning the "Axis of Evil" speech > or US announcement of 30% tax on steel imports? > > Bill. > > --------------------------- > ANTI-NATO INFORMATION LIST > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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