First of all, there are many conferences in these final weeks of the year, right before the holidays, and I think at this point it is impossible to coordinate them so they do not overlap.
For the record, another relatively large conference that same week (Nov 5-9) is Øredev, in Malmö, Sweden. Greetings, Marcel On May 4, 2012, at 16:32 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote: > Hi > > Well, IDK about the W-JAX but from the website and what people said > about it, it seems a real big event. > > But as also said from some of you here, most of the developers attend about > one conference a year, so in either way even if we did the ApacheCon EU > during the other proposed week, that is CW43 = 20-22 November, we still can > not guarantee that will attract more people who already attended W-JAX, and > if someone is interested enough to attend ApachCon I believe they will do > attend in either way. > > That is said, I believe we leave the date as is which will give a chance to > our American fellows to attend and also I am sure that people from allover > EU will be very interested to attend the ApacheCon after not being held for > a while in EU. And we it showed that we were wrong, then we can learn from > that and plan better next time. > > On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Rainer Jung <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 04.05.2012 13:24, Rich Bowen wrote: >> >>> -- >>> Rich Bowen >>> [email protected] >>> >>> On 2012 5 4 07:04, "Goetz, Paul"<[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> I guess it's not carved in stone, but the contract with the venue is >>>> >>> already signed. >>> >>>> Anyway, I could try to change it, but I'm not sure if it will work out... >>>> >>>> However: The only other option left would be CW43 = 20-22 November - and >>>> >>> this is clashing with US Thanksgiving. >>> >>>> So moving the event to late November would more or less exclude US >>>> >>> committers... >>> >>> Although I have no wish to be excluded, EU events should not be planned >>> for >>> the convenience of US attendees. Thats only bitten us in the past. >>> Ignoring >>> JAX seems like a bad idea, and ultimately a bigger deal. >>> >> >> For those who don't know those other events: >> >> Software and Support (a German publishing house) publishes "Java Magazin" >> which is a monthly german journal about Java development. They sure have >> the largest circulation of all similar media in Germany. >> >> They also run several conferences. The biggest is JAX, which is about Java >> development (and as far as I know in the early years "A" stood for Apache >> and "X" for XML, but that was long ago). JAX is in *May* and usually is >> located in the middle of Germany (close to Frankfurt). >> >> I guess the second largest one is W-JAX. That one clashes with the planned >> date for ApacheCon. It happens in Munich (in the south of Germany) and is >> roughly half the size of JAX (please correct me if my estimate is wrong), >> but still much bigger than ApacheCon. >> >> Software and Support very actively promotes those events via the Journal. >> Many Java developers in Germany go to one or the other of JAX and W-JAX. >> Attendance comes mainly from Germany, Switzerland and Austria. Inernational >> attendance is low. >> >> Running ApacheCon the same week will reduce our attendance, but mostly for >> the local attendees. Most devs here are only able to attend one conference >> per year. As already mentioned there will also be some clash of possible >> speakers. The program for W-JAX is not yet announced although the CFP was >> closed on May 2nd. >> >> Regards, >> >> Rainer >> >> > > > -- > Thanks > - Mohammad Nour > ---- > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving" > - Albert Einstein
