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that's exactly how I meant it as well. Speakers should get a free conf pass, or at least get 1 free day per track they hold. Accommodation and travel have to be paid by themselfs. The standard travel assistant rules apply. LieGrue, strub ----- Original Message ----- > From: Donald Harbison <dpharbi...@gmail.com> > To: apachecon-discuss@apache.org > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 8:06 PM > Subject: Re: apachecon eu speaker subsidies > > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Nick Burch <n...@apache.org> wrote: > >> On Mon, 30 Jul 2012, Mark Struberg wrote: >> >>> Folks, I know no single conference where the speakers have to pay for > the >>> conference itself. That's just ridiculous. >>> >> >> There are quite a few out there. It's starting to look like some people >> are finding the idea normal, others are shocked, depending on what other >> conferences you've spoken at recently... >> >> >> The ride and hotel could be handled via the travel-help as we don't > have >>> the budget of other big conferences - but tickets must be included. >>> >> >> <change-of-hat> >> TAC won't just carte-blanche hand out plane tickets to all speakers, >> sorry. Typical TAC recipients are students, people out of work, people just >> starting out in work, people who work in very low paid sectors etc. >> There is a strict judging process, and giving lots of preference to >> speakers, above and beyond others, risks problems with our charitable >> status. Some speakers will get help, certainly, and many have been helped >> out in the past, but by no means can TAC fund them all.... >> </change-of-hat> >> >> Unless someone is able to find a hefty chunk of sponsorship down the back >> of their company sofa, the budget as it currently stands doesn't let us >> both comp speakers, and offer them free hotel accomodation. >> >> So, we come back to the earlier question once more. For those people who >> won't be fully funded by their company no matter what, which is more >> important to you being able to come? >> * Would it be better for you two pay a couple of hundred euros towards >> your ticket (say, something like half price), and get accomodation? >> * Or would it be better if your ticket was completely free, but you >> have to arrange and pay for your own accomodation? >> > > +1 Ticket free/pay for accomodation. Risky to mix the two, IMHO. > > >> >> We've had a few people already vote for the latter, but is that the > case >> for everyone? Which is the one we should be concentrating on trying to make >> happen? >> >> Thanks >> Nick >> >