Hi everyone --thanks for your patience on this; I've been on deadline all day and have only now had a chance to get to the edit.
If the following meets your approval, we'll update the CFP (and supporting marketing) as soon as possible: "Enterprise Messaging & Integration –-common problems, solutions, and best practices with various Apache SOA/infrastructure projects, including ActiveMQ, Camel, Qpid, ServiceMix, Shindig, Synapse, Thrift, Tuscany, and more." Suggestions, comments welcome! If I'm barking up the wrong tree or misunderstood the original issue, do let me know :-) Cheers & chat soon, Sally + and thanks, Sagara, for bringing this up! >________________________________ > From: Sally Khudairi <[email protected]> >To: Ryan Baxter <[email protected]>; "[email protected]" ><[email protected]> >Sent: Tuesday, 16 October 2012, 9:56 >Subject: Re: ApacheCon N/A tracks - Messaging or Enterprise Integration track ? > > >OK; please understand that there's a very strong chance that this list will be >shortened to 5-7 projects. It's not going to be inclusive for the CFP, as >space is limited. > >Here's exactly how the PMCs can help: promote the CFP and let your community >know how they can participate! > >I'll ping y'all once we've got the edits up online. I'll tweet about this as >well. > >Cheers, >Sally > > > > > >>________________________________ >> From: Ryan Baxter <[email protected]> >>To: [email protected] >>Cc: Sally Khudairi <[email protected]> >>Sent: Tuesday, 16 October 2012, 9:19 >>Subject: Re: ApacheCon N/A tracks - Messaging or Enterprise Integration track >>? >> >> >>I will add Shindig to the list as well. >> >> >>On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Sagara Gunathunga >><[email protected]> wrote: >> >>On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Steve Holden <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Sagara: >>>> >>>> Could name some other projects that you think would be suitable for >>>> inclusion in the "messaging" track? >>> >>>In my POV following projects are suitable for above track considering >>>integration also under this track. >>> >>>Synapse >>>ServiceMix >>>Tuscany >>>Etch >>>Thrift >>>Avro >>>ActiveMQ >>>Qpid >>> >>>You also can find some other suggestion from here [1] >>> >>>[1] - >>>http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-apachecon-discuss/201206.mbox/%[email protected]%3E >>> >>>Thanks ! >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> regards >>>> Steve >>>> >>>> On Oct 15, 2012, at 11:03 PM, Sagara Gunathunga wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Steve Holden <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> On Oct 14, 2012, at 1:12 AM, Sagara Gunathunga wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> There was a concern raised by some people including myself during the >>>>>>> EU CFP time to have a Messaging or Enterprise Integration track >>>>>>> instead of allocating a track completely to a single messing project. >>>>>>> At that time we were too late to raise those issues and also had been >>>>>>> informed that the track chairs are always ready to accept "related" >>>>>>> talks if they looks good but looking at EU schedule I can see one >>>>>>> messing project got number of slots and it's hard to see any other >>>>>>> talks from messaging related projects on same track. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now we are in CFP for N/A event and still I can't see Messaging or >>>>>>> Enterprise Integration track instead what I can see is again possible >>>>>>> messaging track is allocated for a specific messaging project in same >>>>>>> as EU event. In case If we have enough space I'm very positive to have >>>>>>> more tracks like "General Messaging" and another track for a specific >>>>>>> messaging project but If we don't have enough space why can't we make >>>>>>> a general messaging track so that number of messaging related projects >>>>>>> can submit their talks and cover more scope/community ? >>>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. In the case of North America, this is probably mostly due to our >>>>>> relative ignorance of the Apache "ecosphere". So I am very glad you have >>>>>> raised the issue. If you can suggest changes to the CfP to make it more >>>>>> inclusive of a wider range we would be grateful for your help. We want >>>>>> to give all projects the opportunity to showcase their work. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for your kind response, I'm happy to help out in area of my >>>>> expertise. As I mentioned in my previous mail this is my suggestion. >>>>> >>>>> If we have enough space and enough people to handle more tracks please >>>>> add a new track called "Messaging", there are considerable number of >>>>> projects available under this category. In case if we don't have >>>>> enough space or people better to rename "Camel in Action" as a >>>>> "Messaging" track so that other messaging related projects also can >>>>> submit their talks under this track instead of limiting to a specific >>>>> project. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks ! >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Taking a different example I always think "Big data" is the ideal name >>>>>>> for a track instead calling it using a specific big data project name. >>>>>>> As I involved organizing number of Apache events in Asia from 2009 I >>>>>>> don't have any concern about impartiality of organizers, also I can >>>>>>> understand the difficulty with EU event with time but clearly in NA >>>>>>> event we have enough time to make changes so that event/tracks will >>>>>>> cover wide range of projects and get wider community attraction. >>>>>>> Finally I expect N/A organizers will consider my comments in a >>>>>>> positive manner. >>>>>>> >>>>>> We certainly do regard such input as positive, and stand ready to hear >>>>>> your (and everybody else's) suggestions for improving the CfP and making >>>>>> the conference more welcoming to a broader section of the Apache >>>>>> community. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks ! >>>>>>> >>>>>> And thank *you*. >>>>>> >>>>>> regards >>>>>> Steve >>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Sagara Gunathunga >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Blog - http://ssagara.blogspot.com >>>>>>> Web - http://people.apache.org/~sagara/ >>>>>>> LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/in/ssagara >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Steve Holden [email protected], Holden Web, LLC http://holdenweb.com/ >>>>>> Python classes (and much more) through the web http://oreillyschool.com/ >>>>>> Conferences and technical event management at http://theopenbastion.com/ >>>>>> Next: Helping with ApacheCon EU (community edition) http://apachecon.eu/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Sagara Gunathunga >>>>> >>>>> Blog - http://ssagara.blogspot.com >>>>> Web - http://people.apache.org/~sagara/ >>>>> LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/in/ssagara >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Steve Holden [email protected], Holden Web, LLC http://holdenweb.com/ >>>> Python classes (and much more) through the web http://oreillyschool.com/ >>>> Conferences and technical event management at http://theopenbastion.com/ >>>> Next: Helping with ApacheCon EU (community edition) http://apachecon.eu/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>>-- >>>Sagara Gunathunga >>> >>>Blog - http://ssagara.blogspot.com >>>Web - http://people.apache.org/~sagara/ >>>LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/in/ssagara >>> >> >> >> > >
